Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

[Stout]

The strangest thing about Cards fans is how grateful we were to Carson Palmer (his name is in the freaking RoH somehow) when he moved on yet so bitter and hostile towards Kyler.

Even though Kyler probably had a slightly better run than did Palmer despite having Kliff and 1.5 years of DHop vs Arians and Fitz.

This is sarcasm, right? Has to be. No one would actually think this.

 

[Stout]

Yep, we could easily become the Browns next…like 20 qbs in like the next 15 years. I hope not, but man I don’t trust our leadership.

And that makes him better than Palmer? What you drinkin'?

 

[TRW]

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Including the $36.5M he’s owed in 2026, QB Kyler Murray has secured over $206M on the field since being selected #1 overall back in 2019.

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[MaoTosiFanClub]

This is sarcasm, right? Has to be. No one would actually think this.

Palmer had two very mediocre seasons, two in which he played around half the time, and one of which he was good but then totally bombed out in the postseason (defense and Fitz bailed him out vs GB, Carolina game he was worse than Kyler vs Rams).

Carson had a much better supporting cast and Arians. Those Cardinals teams generally were upper half of league in defense. It’s really not that crazy of a take.

 

[kerouac9]

Palmer had two very mediocre seasons, two in which he played around half the time, and one of which he was good but then totally bombed out in the postseason (defense and Fitz bailed him out vs GB, Carolina game he was worse than Kyler vs Rams).

Carson had a much better supporting cast and Arians. Those Cardinals teams generally were upper half of league in defense. It’s really not that crazy of a take.

I’d also add that IMO the Cards fan base doesn’t feel much of anything about Carson Palmer. He came later in his career and contributed in the way you say.

Kyler was more high profile. A #1 overall pick and Heisman trophy winner — the Cards first #1 pick in a year when both the Cards and Suns had the first overall selection.

Kyler had a ton of swag and was media savvy. Just couldn’t deliver, unfortunately.

 

[Zeno]

Palmer had two very mediocre seasons, two in which he played around half the time, and one of which he was good but then totally bombed out in the postseason (defense and Fitz bailed him out vs GB, Carolina game he was worse than Kyler vs Rams).

Carson had a much better supporting cast and Arians. Those Cardinals teams generally were upper half of league in defense. It’s really not that crazy of a take.

Every year Palmer was able to finish the season healthy he passed for over 4000 yards. Murray came close to 4000 yards twice but never got there. The one thing both have in common is injury.

Also while Palmer was terrible versus the Panthers in the NFC championship Kyler was slightly worse in the wild card…just comparing their rating alone shows that.

 

[CardNots]

Palmer was better than Kyler.

Solid statement!

 

[phillycard]

I truly wish this brotha the best. I was as frustrated at his play and attitude at times as anyone else, but he was always my QB. Gave us some exciting times and electrifying moments, but it was just time for a change with both parties. The best move for all involved.

 

[Stout]

Palmer had two very mediocre seasons, two in which he played around half the time, and one of which he was good but then totally bombed out in the postseason (defense and Fitz bailed him out vs GB, Carolina game he was worse than Kyler vs Rams).

Carson had a much better supporting cast and Arians. Those Cardinals teams generally were upper half of league in defense. It’s really not that crazy of a take.

You just lost your own argument. Carson GOT the team to the playoffs; Kyler choked on clinching games. Palmer WON in the postseason; Kyler choked in the postseason. Nice try excusing that stuff away, though.

 

[Stout]

I truly wish this brotha the best. I was as frustrated at his play and attitude at times as anyone else, but he was always my QB. Gave us some exciting times and electrifying moments, but it was just time for a change with both parties. The best move for all involved.

If he continues his stubborn approach, I hope he flames out. He's not doing everything he can to win so he doesn't deserve to. If he ever wakes up, dumps daddy, hires a QB guru, becomes a student of the game, then sure, I'll wish him the best.

 

[CardNots]

I’d also add that IMO the Cards fan base doesn’t feel much of anything about Carson Palmer. He came later in his career and contributed in the way you say.

Kyler was more high profile. A #1 overall pick and Heisman trophy winner — the Cards first #1 pick in a year when both the Cards and Suns had the first overall selection.

Kyler had a ton of swag and was media savvy. Just couldn’t deliver, unfortunately.

Both Warner and Palmer excited me far more than a 5’10 prospect.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

well Palmer was the #1 pick and Heisman winner as well. We just got him off the scrap heap and Arians rejuvenated his career. Palmer/BA also hamstrung with mostly terrible 1st round picks too.

Just saying when you look at the whole picture there ain’t much difference. Kyler never got the top 15 defense and Super Bowl caliber coaching that Palmer got.

 

[juza76]

The peaks of kyler were better then palmer
Instead consistency and toughness were not even comparable
At the end of the day we talking about 2 qbs that were not very succesful
Just 1 win by palmer in a playoff game

 

[Cardinal Bob]

Both Warner and Palmer excited me far more than a 5’10 prospect.

Kyler isn't 5'10", even with lifts in his cleats!

I'm just glad this failed experiment is over. KM will get signed by another team, flame out there, and then likely be out of the league or relegated to backup status within 3 years.

I, for one, will be glad to watch whoever as the QB next season over watching a little person who can't see half the field play QB.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

You just lost your own argument. Carson GOT the team to the playoffs; Kyler choked on clinching games. Palmer WON in the postseason; Kyler choked in the postseason. Nice try excusing that stuff away, though.

Dude that Carolina game was worse than any game I’ve ever seen Kyler play. Arguably any Cardinal QB.

GB game Palmer was entirely average and got bailed out by Fitz, defense (save two plays) and a helmet deflection. Palmer had 8 turnovers in the 2015 playoffs for heavens sake.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[JosiahLee]

And that makes him better than Palmer? What you drinkin'?

No not a comparison to Palmer at all. I’m making a point we could end right back in the era before Palmer…The John Skelton, max Hall, Ryan Lindley, Kevin Kolb era.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I’ll also add on the CP/Kyler thing that Palmer was here during the pre McVay/Shanahan days when half our division was a dumpster fire. Kyler got the usual Seattle and two generational coaches in the West (with Kliff and Gannon).

Only 3 dudes ever have had the ability and mental fortitude to rise out of the Bidwillian septic tank: Warner, Fitz, and Arians.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

No not a comparison to Palmer at all. I’m making a point we could end right back in the era before Palmer…The John Skelton, max Hall, Ryan Lindley, Kevin Kolb era.

Odds are about 60-65% of that being the case. Remember that with the Bidwills the Costanza opposite rule applies: the opposite of their instincts is likely the correct one which may include dumping Kyler on the scrap heap.

It was obviously time for all parties to move on that being said.

 

[Cardinal88]

People, let's stop trying to defend the Kyler dude. You can't compare Kyler to Carson. Different eras different teams. At the end of the day, Kyler had his opportunities and failed. Palmer was 34 years old when he played for Arizona where he was tappering off a little but Kyler WAS in his youth AND prime athletic state. Kyler's only hope to succeed was to use his legs and scrambling ability. Once that slowed down, he was toast.

I'm really disappointed because I wanted him to succeed. I will never put Kyler in the same consideration as Carson Palmer.

Interesting enough, I feel we can add another running QB to a short NFL career just like others faded quickly.

 

[602 Native]

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[602 Native]

No not a comparison to Palmer at all. I’m making a point we could end right back in the era before Palmer…The John Skelton, max Hall, Ryan Lindley, Kevin Kolb era.

That’s exactly where we are headed.

We saw it this last season with K1 going down and not being able to finish games and zero ability to move the ball past the 20s with a craptastic Brissett.

We are entering uncharted territory where we don’t have the feeling we can win any game. We had that with K1. Any given game we felt he could get us a win. That is the reason to tune in. The Cards without him you never had that feeling.

Buckle Up

 

[602 Native]

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I was told that this wasn’t the case. I was told the Jets are where he would be “traded”.

Again if he goes to the Vikes you can count on that team being a contender for the NFC and the Cards once again being the ultimate punchline and not K1.

 

[602 Native]

FWIW RUMOR - From PHNX today, Petzing lobbied for JB to play over Kyler to unlock the pass game.

Kyler injury flared up again on way to Indy. So they took that as the opportunity to make the change.

JG wanted Kyler to play again last season, but defferred to Drew in the end.

MO tried to trade Kyler last year for a day 2 pick. No one wanted the contract.

This still just kills me.

BPB making the final call on if K1 started is just peak Cards and JG absolutely deserved to be fired over it.

A know nothing OC who was horrible for most of his tenure here made a call like that and the HC just stood bye and let it happen while the QB went 1-11.

crap show doesn’t even compare to what this was.

I hope MLF has a back bone to be a leader because JG sure the F didn’t.

 

[Dan H]

I never doubted that Carson cared. I can’t say the same for Kyler.

And this is coming from a guy with a Kyler jersey, autographed helmet, figurines …. Crap.

What do you guys do with all your old swag?