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I just don't know if that's possible. He does so many positive things for the team but if he can't push the boundaries, I'm not sure he'd have the same kind of value. I can live with the Lakers game and his other semi-rare gaffes as long as he doesn't go all serial killer out there - that's Draymond's job even though Brooks has auditioned for the part several times.

At least Brooks is not shoving referees around like Lebron who can get away with it.

If that were Brooks doing it, he would be suspended 3-5 games.

I haven't seen him deliberately try to injure someone. That's where I draw the line.
 

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Bridges was a good defender but I never got a nasty willing to fight you vibe from him.

Raja Bell was the last guy I can think of that we had like that.
 

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While I agree with you, let’s not give all the credit to Brooks. Ish clearly defined what he wanted this team to become moving forward. He went out and constructed the team accordingly. Ott has to have a lot of credit here too. Cleveland was a defensive team and he brought that here. Give Brooks a ton of credit. But this larger than just him.

It’s crazy to think we’re now known as a defensive team. That’s never been our calling card. Ever.

Gregory deserves as much credit as Ishbia, maybe more. Ishbia is signing the checks and may have had a vision but he's also a billionaire with irons in a lot of fires. I believe Gregory was instrumental in finding the guys like Ott, Brooks, Booyau, Goodwin, Livers, etc who helped create this identity.
 

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While I agree with you, let’s not give all the credit to Brooks. Ish clearly defined what he wanted this team to become moving forward. He went out and constructed the team accordingly. Ott has to have a lot of credit here too. Cleveland was a defensive team and he brought that here. Give Brooks a ton of credit. But this larger than just him.

It’s crazy to think we’re now known as a defensive team. That’s never been our calling card. Ever.
Now we just need buy in from the refs.
 

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I just don't know if that's possible. He does so many positive things for the team but if he can't push the boundaries, I'm not sure he'd have the same kind of value. I can live with the Lakers game and his other semi-rare gaffes as long as he doesn't go all serial killer out there - that's Draymond's job even though Brooks has auditioned for the part several times.
I don't buy. In fact, I think this thinking is baloney. All he has to do is not touch another player when celebrating. I am not asking for Clark Kent.
 

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Gregory deserves as much credit as Ishbia, maybe more. Ishbia is signing the checks and may have had a vision but he's also a billionaire with irons in a lot of fires. I believe Gregory was instrumental in finding the guys like Ott, Brooks, Booyau, Goodwin, Livers, etc who helped create this identity.
Group effort for sure. Yep, BG has been excellent in his execution. But it does start from the top. He put BG in as GM to much derisiveness. Ishbia was like the Men's Wearhouse guy, "You're going to like the way we look. I guarantee it!"
 

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I agree. It's not all Brooks. Just like it wasn't all Barkley or Nash. However, all of them were MAJOR catalysts and IMO wouldn't have been successful at the transformations without them.
Did Barkley really transform the team, or was he just the final piece in a true contender? I don’t think team became materially different the way dantoni/nash and now ott/brooks had changed the very dna of their respective squads.
 

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Gregory deserves as much credit as Ishbia, maybe more. Ishbia is signing the checks and may have had a vision but he's also a billionaire with irons in a lot of fires. I believe Gregory was instrumental in finding the guys like Ott, Brooks, Booyau, Goodwin, Livers, etc who helped create this identity.
Absolutely. Gregory is the one who had to actually effectuate the roster ishbia envisioned. Always takes a visionary, a builder and implementer.
 

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Did Barkley really transform the team, or was he just the final piece in a true contender? I don’t think team became materially different the way dantoni/nash and now ott/brooks had changed the very dna of their respective squads.
I believe he did. The Suns were perennial boy scouts and lacked the edge. That team truly believed they could beat anybody and Barkley was the type of player who not only trashed talked but could back it up. The Suns had nobody like that. Barkley also brought attention to the team like no other player before. I posted the story somewhere on these forums. For the first time the Suns were the biggest away draw in the NBA that season they went to the finals. IMO, the entire package was pretty transformative.
 

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Brooks knows this and said as much in today's post practice interview.
 

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I don't want Dillon to change at all. He's been the MVP so far for the Suns.
Just a little. in the final minute, when we are up by a couple. I still want him high fiving the opposition on free throws.
 

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