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he has a fantastic game no doubt and was at an mvp level for much of it. But that was a HUGE boneheaded play and horrible ball security. It was apart of the reasons we lost and if you can’t look past his stats and see that you’re just a over the top blow hard lol.... to say he has no blame at all is just asinine.

Just like Shaggy saying Zane Gonzales has no blame
 
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he has a fantastic game no doubt and was at an mvp level for much of it. But that was a HUGE boneheaded play and horrible ball security. It was apart of the reasons we lost and if you can’t look past his stats and see that you’re just a over the top blow hard lol.... to say he has no blame at all is just asinine.

list me all the reasons we lost this game. Cause I know if I make my list the guy who had 384 total yards and 4 touchdowns is going to be pretty far down the list.
 

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list me all the reasons we lost this game. Cause I know if I make my list the guy who had 384 total yards and 4 touchdowns is going to be pretty far down the list.
You need to be able to separate the play from the player. Kyler didn't lose us this game, but the one really bad play he had was a contributing factor to us losing.
 

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list me all the reasons we lost this game. Cause I know if I make my list the guy who had 384 total yards and 4 touchdowns is going to be pretty far down the list.

maybe.. but on the list none the less.... lol turn overs and defensive TOS for points are HUGE in the nfl.... keep lessening... we get it....
 

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You need to be able to separate the play from the player. Kyler didn't lose us this game, but the one really bad play he had was a contributing factor to us losing.

a large contributing factor
 
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maybe.. but on the list none the less.... lol turn overs and defensive TOS for points are HUGE in the nfl.... keep lessening... we get it....

again perfect example of guys who only watch one side of the ball

so how many points in your opinion is enough in the NFL?

what you should be looking at is how a rookie QB carved us up all night and missed tackles from our defense at key moments

but yes Kyler Murray is the key reason we loss he failed to play the perfect game.
 
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You need to be able to separate the play from the player. Kyler didn't lose us this game, but the one really bad play he had was a contributing factor to us losing.

that’s fine 1 play isn’t going to kill us it never does. We let a rookie QB making his second start destroy our defense all night long.
 

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again perfect example of guys who only watch one side of the ball

so how many points in your opinion is enough in the NFL?

what you should be looking at is how a rookie QB carved us up all night and missed tackles from our defense at key moments

but yes Kyler Murray is the key reason we loss he failed to play the perfect game.
We have both posted about how the defense played poorly and that was a big factor in losing. We are simply stating that the defensive TD played a role in the outcome of the game and should not be completely overlooked just because there were other things that also contributed to the loss.
 

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Kyler needs to keep the ball in his hand walking around campus for the next week like Omar Epps in the movie “The Program.” Knowing him, he will. Almost won the game without Byron Murphy but Zane Gonzales choked. That kick would get a Pop Warner player benched. Looking forward to the future without Vance Joseph and Zane Gonzales.
 
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We have both posted about how the defense played poorly and that was a big factor in losing. We are simply stating that the defensive TD played a role in the outcome of the game and should not be completely overlooked just because there were other things that also contributed to the loss.

that’s fine but like I’ve already said if I’m making my list of reasons we lost Kyler Murray is pretty damn far down my list
 

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that’s fine 1 play isn’t going to kill us it never does. We let a rookie QB making his second start destroy our defense all night long.
That wasn't just 1 play, it was a play that literally handed the other team 7 points. In a game that was decided by 3 points I would have to say that looms pretty large on the outcome of the game.
 

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again perfect example of guys who only watch one side of the ball

so how many points in your opinion is enough in the NFL?

what you should be looking at is how a rookie QB carved us up all night and missed tackles from our defense at key moments

but yes Kyler Murray is the key reason we loss he failed to play the perfect game.

again none of us are claiming there aren’t other reasons We lost... We know the D has a share to blame and player penalties and Zane etc.... we’ve clearly said such... But all of you completely obsolving KYLER are out of your minds. Lol It’s really pretty simple. DTD are difference makers and he has some of the sloppiest ball security we’ve seen. His one handed ball hold many have said will kill us one day. Today was the day we saw it. It will happen again. We get it he did no wrong... lol
 
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again none of us are claiming there aren’t other reasons We lost... We know the D has a share to blame and player penalties and Zane etc.... we’ve clearly said such... But all of you completely obsolving KYLER are out of your minds. Lol It’s really pretty simple. DTD are difference makers and he has some of the sloppiest ball security we’ve seen. His one handed ball hold many have said will kill us one day. Today was the day we saw it. It will happen again. We get it he did no wrong... lol


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that’s fine but like I’ve already said if I’m making my list of reasons we lost Kyler Murray is pretty damn far down my list
It's probably at least 3rd on the list IMO behind defense/Joseph and Kliff's situational football and above Zane missing the FG IMO. Kind of want to put the missed FG above it because it was short from 49, but that is ultimately a distance that isn't a guaranteed make either.
 
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sucks being wrong doesn’t it

Oh not wrong at all. The whole “it will happen again” thing just proved my point. Your waiting for a mistake to say AHHH HA see I told you.

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like I said thank you
 

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Oh not wrong at all. The whole “it will happen again” thing just proved my point. Your waiting for a mistake to say AHHH HA see I told you.

agenda

like I said thank you

no agenda... common sense
 

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Lets not forget K1 lead team for score straight after fumble. As usual d gave up td following drive like clockwork cause of Fotu face mask on Golden sack with Dolphins on 2 & 20. Thats not inlcuding neutral zone infractions on both Golden & Leki @ start of that drive
 

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This is one of the the most ridiculous threads Ive ever had the good fortune to read.
 

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absolutely but if Kyler doesn’t have atrocious ball security fumbling it away for a defensive touchdown for Miami we’re likely not in that position to begin with. We will never know. But it IS A REASON WE LOST AS WELL.
And ITS NOT THE PRIMARY REASON WE LOST.

You HAVE to say he made up for it more then enough. It was the DEFENSE that let him down in the in. Just like you accuse Nashman for excusing Kyler every time, I can certainly blame YOU for putting all the blame on Kyler whenever he messes up and never letting up like he doesn’t belong in the NFL and surely not a Cardinal uniform. Your post history proves this.
 

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Just like Shaggy saying Zane Gonzales has no blame

Yes, he has some of the blame but most users in that thread put all the blame on him. It shouldn't have come down to a tying 49 yrd field goal, period. They were moving the ball and they can't score a single point in the 4th quarter? Really?
 

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And ITS NOT THE PRIMARY REASON WE LOST.

You HAVE to say he made up for it more then enough. It was the DEFENSE that let him down in the in. Just like you accuse Nashman for excusing Kyler every time, I can certainly blame YOU for putting all the blame on Kyler whenever he messes up and never letting up like he doesn’t belong in the NFL and surely not a Cardinal uniform. Your post history proves this.

:biglaugh:

blahaha
 

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