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  1. az jam

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    Lot's of Monday morning QBs which is fine everyone has their opinions. It was a very intense game with decisions being made instantly and there certainly were lots of hero's and goats. Was depressed after Gonzales missed the FG and I don't blame anyone but him. However, it was just so wonderful that he got another chance and made it. As a long time Cards fan (like many on the board), this doesn't happen very often. Damn, I'm just glad we won. I'm am just so happy that we are all talking about the win not a loss!!! :fans:
     
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    I'm not sure how what you are saying is much different than what I am saying.
     
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    Guess we have different definitions about icing a kicker. To me, icing the kicker is INTENTIONALLY taking a TO to make him wait or throw off his rhythm, as in the defense calling a TO just prior to snap.

    Calling a TO to avoid a penalty is not icing the kicker. I'm not a KK fan at all, but this wasn't on him.
     
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    Syracusecards DA's pass went that way

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    agreed. we should have kept trying to get closer
     
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    No it wasn't. It appears you don't know what that is. It has to be intentional to ice the kicker. That's how the saying came to be.
     
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    KK’s brain meltingly stupid decision to kick on second down and his failure to have his team ready to kick the field goal before time ran out forced him to call timeout.

    bottom line is his balls shriveling up in that moment forced him to call a TO and that iced the kicker. It’s not a question of did he “purposely” ice the kicker. The end result of botching that plan meant he did anyway.
     
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    Exactly. If he didn't call the time out the kick wouldn't have counted anyways. We would have been called for a delay of game and been pushed back another 5 yards. I also don't have a problem with the time out, I have the issue with him kicking on 2nd down and not trying to get a few more yards or even just score the TD. I know the kickers only job is to make kicks but I hate putting it in the kickers hands unless absolutely necessary.
    Teams like Seattle never "settle" for the FG. They always go for the kill shot.
     
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    Yes, especially considering the head coach is an offensive mind, who use to try fourth down conversion in the opponent territory
     
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    Stupid or not, it's always easier call it later, but I do agree when an offensive guru can't kick a field goal on second down with plenty time ahead
    But to be honest I remember also Bruce Arians making the same call
     
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    Felt like an icing to me.. even KK acknowledged it pretty bluntly in his presser. But whatevs...all's well that's ends well.
     
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    Cleary it was untintetional, but they iced the kicker. That cannot be denied, the proof is on film. Would it make you feel better to say the team effectivey iced their kicker?
     
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    I think Bruce made it though, so he is a genius...
     
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    That was the coach trying to take the blame for Zane's miss. No timeout and it is a 5 yard penalty. With the penalty, they may have run another play anyway instead of kicking it.
     
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    Again, I am not just blaming the coach. I am blaming the team (players and coaches).
     
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    It would make me feel better if you use the right terminology. It would be like calling a shovel pass a run. It isn't.
     

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