Next head coach?

Next coach

  • Daboll

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Stefanski

    Votes: 30 19.9%
  • Flores

    Votes: 16 10.6%
  • McCarthy

    Votes: 8 5.3%
  • Somebody else

    Votes: 96 63.6%

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Solar7

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Raiders have potential with fresh QB and some talent. Ownership is a wash.

Pete shouldn't have come back. He's toast. Raiders made a mistake. Hawks knew it and let him walk and now they are back in the SB.

Patriots are also back in the SB a few years after firing their hall of fa....errr regular coach.

Raiders are infinitely more attractive, but true no one knows his mindset.
I mean, the Raiders are always, always going to have a stadium full of opposing fans.

We're not exactly doing great on that front, but when this team is good, actual Cardinals fans show up. The Raiders are never going to be able to build a local fanbase. Too many people are willing to travel to Vegas to see their team and drop ten grand on their trip for a party weekend with scalped tickets.

You can't really see a game in this city (for two people) without being willing to drop a grand on even nosebleeds, given the cost of needing to get an Uber or transportation in (parking is almost nonexistent and public transportation doesn't really exist), outbidding everyone on a ticket reseller site, the wild cost of concessions, and all that.

Even if you manage to get season tickets, there's a $5,000 PSL.

Potential coaches might not be aware of how bad the scene is here to build a fanbase.
 

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On a serious note, if our interview with Kubiak is AFTER his scheduled interview with LV, I bet ours never even happens. It's just leverage by him and his agent, just like Saleh was going to "come here" after his interview with the Titans.

When that happens, are we just going to circle back to LeFleur and pretend like he was our choice all along, when they have clearly shown that's not the case?
 

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That is also where I am at. I still don’t understand why it matters who hires first? Did you guys really dream about Jeff Hafley or Jesse Minter? Todd Monken or Mike McCarthy? When this all started I had four favorites, and three of them are still not hired by anyone, and all three will even have had second interviews.

I wanted them to hire LaFleur right away, but I think it is obvious that Kubiak has been the preferred option all along. A pure guess is that he was for many teams going into this cycle, but either other candidates blew those teams away, or they just didn’t want to wait for Kubiak.

And then people act like it is a sure thing that any coach would prefer the Raiders. What if the candidate doesn’t like Mendoza? What if the candidate is scared of the crazy structure of that organization (Brady mengeling in stuff. Mark Davis being more volcano-spontaneous than Bidwill)? Why are people still using salary cap as an argument as if the salary cap had any team building impact at all? Why are people focused on stadiums and completely ignore that the Cards will have new training facilities (you know, where coaches by far spent most of their time). You have no idea what Kubiak is thinking.

I don’t understand why so many assume that the Cardinals have screwed up this process. I am not saying they will for sure get one of the three best candidates, but they at least have the option, and that is much more than I dared to hope for when they fired Gannon.
Yes, if they end up with LeFleur or Kubiak in the end, I won't be disappointed. However, the problem with waiting so long is it hinders their ability to put together a competent staff around the new HC. JG was hired on Valentine's Day and consequently put together the most inexperienced/green staff we've seen in a long time. This absolutely is a disadvantage.
 

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Why? Nobody has any idea what Klint might like.

Raiders are more a dumpster fire than Arizona that just fired a hall of fame head coach after a year.
...and have a great cap situation and the #1 overall pick in a draft with only one premium QB in the class. They have a far better situation for a coach than we do.
 

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Saying the Cardinals roster situation is "clearly better" is a symptom of looking through everything in Cardinal colored glasses - can't fix anything until people are realistic about our current situation.
My point is that any honest debate on that matter has to recognize that it is close enough to warrant a debate. I personally think the Cardinals roster is better, but I am see where someone could argue the other way. Also, I can recognize that the QB situation in AZ is significantly more unclear that it impacts the comparison as well.

The knob slobbing done by some to try to convince others that the QB, HC, Roster and GM aren't a problem is absolutely crazy. They may not be the only problem, but they still are clearly a problem.

It's like this coaching search. It isn't that it can't work out, but the process is bad. Until this organization starts recognizing a good process from a bad process, it's going to continue to find anything more than fleeting success.
 
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X says they are interviewing Anthony Weaver on Sunday

my take on this:

target #1 was LaFleur. But something happened during contract negotiations and he in all likelihood isnt a candidate anymore.

they moved on to Kubiak but have been told they are a long shot. By the Saturday meeting, the Cards will know he isnt interested.

so they arrange Weaver Sunday, and he will be hired that day.

Book it
 

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X says they are interviewing Anthony Weaver on Sunday

my take on this:

target #1 was LaFleur. But something happened during contract negotiations and he in all likelihood isnt a candidate anymore.

they moved on to Kubiak but have been told they are a long shot. By the Saturday meeting, the Cards will know he isnt interested.

so they arrange Weaver Sunday, and he will be hired that day.

Book it
Where are you seeing that?

This is what popped up for me
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X says they are interviewing Anthony Weaver on Sunday

my take on this:

target #1 was LaFleur. But something happened during contract negotiations and he in all likelihood isnt a candidate anymore.

they moved on to Kubiak but have been told they are a long shot. By the Saturday meeting, the Cards will know he isnt interested.

so they arrange Weaver Sunday, and he will be hired that day.

Book it
I think they already interviewed Weaver last Sunday (which I believe was moved into Monday), and that was the 2nd interview. I don't think they have a 3rd lined up.
 

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its going to be Anthony Weaver.

I dont know why the Mike and Monti crew are wasting their time AND whatever little credibility they have left




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provides the latest update on #Seahawks OC Klint Kubiak:"If the Raiders' job is not available to him, and it's just the Arizona job, it's a very likely chance that he goes back to Seattle."
 

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The Cardinals are deluded if they think they can get Kubiak.

The fact that they are still going "their process" like it exonerates them of basic strategic thinking is blowing my mind.
 
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Does anyone know when the Cards are meeting with Kubiak? I thought I saw someone say he was here today/tomorrow and raiders this weekend but can’t find it anywhere.
 
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