Next head coach?

[Redsz]

This would mean MO gets fired for sure.

Vance is a total loser HC

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This would be like JG part two. Great coordinator who can produce a bunch of sound bites that MB will love. I can unfortunately see it happening.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

I’ll take Mcdaniels as HC and Morris as his DC

Let’s roll

Turns out when we aren’t talking Kyler Murray we agree on stuff!

Sign me up for McDaniel as HC with morris as his dc any day. That would be light years better than JG/petzing

 

[TRW]

If "no excuses" for injuries was applied to every coach then people would be giving our previous staff credit for 2024 when we blew out the Rams 41-10 and swept the 49ers. The media (and plenty of fans) dismissed those wins because the Rams had 4 players injured, and the 49ers ended the year with 16 players on IR. 25 players on IR for us? Sports journalists barely say a word. That year we had a top 12 offense and an overperforming defense, but we were slammed with certain hard truths regarding our QB/defensive personnel and finished poorly.

Here's how it goes with angry fans, when we beat a team with a few injuries it doesnt count. But when we bottom out with 47% of the roster on IR, having to play our CB6 as our CB1 by week 4, then it's "no excuses"

Its part of the Bidwill strategy to fire the coach every 3-5 years. Whisenhunt and Arians are our longest tenured coaches at 6 and 5 years despite us being the oldest franchise. The Bidwells dont invest as much in the team as other owners, which sets staffs up for failure. So to keep fan interest in this sham up they have to regularly reset expectations with a new staff. People will mock you for showing any hesitation to dump on the previous staff. If they can't pretend the previous staff was incompetent, how can they have hope the new one will fix everything?

Don't forget the immortal Jim Hanifan who ties Whis with 6 seasons being the longest tenured coaches. He actually had their 2 winning seasons in the decade of the 80's. I only know that because I was looking at coaches in their history the other day. If you count the decades since the beginning, you'll find they average something like 3 or 4 non-losing seasons a decade.

Anyway, injuries are not excuses, they are sometimes reasons teams lose. But, even with all of the injuries the coaching was sub-par, especially in crucial moments IMO. That makes you 3-14.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Or they win 12 if they stay remotely healthy. Sadly, we’ll never know because we absolutely had to fire a coach who’s team had more injuries than any team in NFL history.

How do you retain a coach that goes 3-14 in year 3 of a rebuild? Forget the ticket sales- how do you justify that?

The counter to your argument will always be - we looked like crap on the backside of 2024 which rolled straight in to 2025 when we had a healthy roster. We barely scraped by our first 2 wins and looked totally out of wack. We were losing games with a healthy roster - and then were probably the most non competitive football team in the league once injuries piled up.

JG is probably a good defensive coach- and to be honest I liked his attitude and wish the guy the best. The proof is in front of us though- JG could not hang in the nfc west- just not talented enough and too stubborn to internally reflect on his own staff to make changes. He fires petzing a year ago- maybe he is still our head coach.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Green bay is out of their mind if they fire lafleur- classic example of a franchise /fanbase that has lived too well for too long. Never had a QB issue, always competitive every year. They don’t know how low you can sink.

I’d take lafleur as our HC any day. Sign me up

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

So Vance was on the staff, interviewed for HC last time, didn't get it and they even went with a defensive guy, ended up being fired as DC, but now is interviewing for HC again??? And said to be a lead candidate.
Monti is the best!!!

Edit: I don't even think he was a top 3-4 choice and may have been the first candidate eliminated in the last go round.

 

[602 Native]

One key issue with Vance or any other defensive-minded head coach is who the offensive coordinator is. Also, how well can they replace the offensive coordinator in the even that they get hired away?

Why hire Vance who is 10-22 or something as a HC and he needs a great OC like McDaniels.

When you can hire McDaniels who has done average as HC and is a great offensive mind and he can raid the 49ers and seashawks staffs for his DC and other coaches.

The Cards hire Vance and they are showing they are completely inept.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

So Vance was on the staff, interviewed for HC last time, didn't get it and they even went with a defensive guy, ended up being fired as DC, but now is interviewing for HC again??? And said to be a lead candidate.
Monti is the best!!!

Edit: I don't even think he was a top 3-4 choice and may have been the first candidate eliminated in the last go round.

Bidwill loves VJ. The perfect yes-man coach.

And yes - I’d probably check out for a few years if we hire him.

 

[Gandhi]

I think this teams situation has us all leaning toward some experience. But I agree. I’m not going to hang myself if we don’t.

It was not to point out what experience means. Just that it is not necessarily a horrible thing that the Cardinals are not moving at rapid speed.

 

[TheCardFan]

How can we get a Ben Johnson?

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[PACardsFan]

How do you retain a coach that goes 3-14 in year 3 of a rebuild? Forget the ticket sales- how do you justify that?

The counter to your argument will always be - we looked like crap on the backside of 2024 which rolled straight in to 2025 when we had a healthy roster. We barely scraped by our first 2 wins and looked totally out of wack. We were losing games with a healthy roster - and then were probably the most non competitive football team in the league once injuries piled up.

JG is probably a good defensive coach- and to be honest I liked his attitude and wish the guy the best. The proof is in front of us though- JG could not hang in the nfc west- just not talented enough and too stubborn to internally reflect on his own staff to make changes. He fires petzing a year ago- maybe he is still our head coach.

For the record, we were never healthy in 2025. Both of our starting corners from 2024 were not available for the start of 2025. Our first round pick Nolen wasn’t available & there were many others. And that was even before the season started. We did beat a Carolina team early that turned out to be a pretty damn good team. Just ask the Rams. And when our offense struggled against the Saints on the road, it turned out that the Saints were a far better team in 2025 than anyone expected. Our offense against Seattle actually performed better than most offenses did against that defense. Murray rallied us to 2 touchdowns late in that game to give us a shot to win & our kicker blew the game late. When we lost to the Niners, Murray throws a dime to Zay Jones, which would have closed out the win & he dropped it. And Demarcado blew what would have given us a 32-6 lead, which ultimately led to Murray getting hurt & our season ending. INJURIES DO MATTER, especially for a team as young as this team. I’m a Cardinal fan & I will root for them regardless of who’s coaching. But, I’ve seen the Bidwills make mistakes like this too many times to count. They are a clueless bunch that hire the wrong candidates, fire the wrong candidates, and have been doing it for DECADES. I know that because I’ve lived it! It’s not rocket science when this franchise has the longest championship drought of ANY team in ANY sport.

 

[krazy2k]

If "no excuses" for injuries was applied to every coach then people would be giving our previous staff credit for 2024 when we blew out the Rams 41-10 and swept the 49ers. The media (and plenty of fans) dismissed those wins because the Rams had 4 players injured, and the 49ers ended the year with 16 players on IR. 25 players on IR for us? Sports journalists barely say a word. That year we had a top 12 offense and an overperforming defense, but we were slammed with certain hard truths regarding our QB/defensive personnel and finished poorly.

Here's how it goes with angry fans, when we beat a team with a few injuries it doesnt count. But when we bottom out with 47% of the roster on IR, having to play our CB6 as our CB1 by week 4, then it's "no excuses"

Its part of the Bidwill strategy to fire the coach every 3-5 years. Whisenhunt and Arians are our longest tenured coaches at 6 and 5 years despite us being the oldest franchise. The Bidwells dont invest as much in the team as other owners, which sets staffs up for failure. So to keep fan interest in this sham up they have to regularly reset expectations with a new staff. People will mock you for showing any hesitation to dump on the previous staff. If they can't pretend the previous staff was incompetent, how can they have hope the new one will fix everything?

I don't think 3-14 was "finishing poorly". The entire season was an abject disaster. Just wait until the Cards hire a lame HC, give KM yet another chance, and 2026 is no better than 2025. I would like to see what Lafleur could do here if GB lets him go.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

How can we get a Ben Johnson?

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I mean, JG shouted to fans the Eagles were gonna effing gut the Niners...then he gets the HC job in AZ, but leaves his balls in Philly.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I know there are only 32 of these jobs in the world, but in my decades of being a businessman, there are just some jobs you don't take. You don't like the owner, the general manager, the super, the other subs, where the money comes from, etc you are better off just walking away. Personally I think the Cardinal job is in this exact spot. Sure, sure the money comes into play... Are you willing move your family, live up to the pressure, media scrutiny, to give up your life for money?

 

[slanidrac16]

How can we get a Ben Johnson?

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Klint Kubiak?

 

[az jam]

What are the thought on Matt Nagy? He was a winning head coach and his whole career has been on the offense side. He is very close to Andy Reid and is the OC for the Chiefs. I really don't know that much about him and wonder what others feel about him for the Cards HC job.

 

[slanidrac16]

What are the thought on Matt Nagy? He was a winning head coach and his whole career has been on the offense side. He is very close to Andy Reid and is the OC for the Chiefs. I really don't know that much about him and wonder what others feel about him for the Cards HC job.

He had a couple of winning seasons and playoff appearances with Trubisky and Fields.
I believe he was the coach that lost the famous double doink playoff game ending fg attempt.
He’s had a couple of years with Reid. I guess we could do worse.

 

[Gandhi]

The more I think about it, the more positive I become to the idea of Anthony Weaver as the head coach. Granted, Saleh, Kubiak and Mike LaFleur are still #1, #2 and #3 (and if Matt LaFleur becomes available he immediately becomes my favorite).

However, just a pure hunch is that Weaver is a very real option whereas I am more hesitant with the other three, so I thought I would like to check who might be his OC choice, and I would like to share it with you guys.

Actually, Weaver has a lot of interesting connections from his jobs the last several years.

For five years he was with the Texans, and through that time he was on the same coaching staff with, for example, Tim Kelly, who was the OC with the Giants this past season. He has previously had several years as the offensive coordinator for both the Texans and Titans. He also worked with Ossenfort for a year in Tennessee.

A little “fun” guess could be Bill O’Brien, who was Weaver's boss for five years. O’Brien also had a relationship throughout many years with Ossenfort. He is currently the head coach at Boston College, though, so it might be stretching it to have him as a candidate.

Some years ago, Weaver worked with Todd Monken at Baltimore. Monken has just been let go, along with Harbaugh, and has had at least one head coach-interview. I don’t think he is a realistic candidate as a head coach, though. He has many years of OC-experience.

At Miami, Frank Smith was the OC who McDaniel brought in immediately when he became the head coach. He has also had head coaching-interviews in the past.

Darrell Bevell was the quarterback coach with the Dolphins. He has many years of OC-experience as well as two times as an interim head coach. He was with the Seahawks for six or seven years, so he knows the division.

Bobby Slowik came to the Dolphins at the same time as Weaver. It’s only a couple of years ago that he had multiple head coaching-interviews after being the OC during C.J. Stroud’s great rookie season. Previously, Slowik worked many years with the Niners after being headhunted by Shanahan.

I know that this could very well be a completely irrelevant post in not-so-long. I just thought it was interesting, and I think the main point is that there are several interesting candidates that he potentially could bring with him.

 

[HookemCards]

I hope not, rather have Salah and have him raid 49ers offensive / defensive staff or Kubiak and have him raid Seattle offense / defense coaches. Our division is toughest in the NFL. If we can weaken one of these teams through poaching quality assistants, do it.

Yup. Harbaugh is 1st choice but that isn't happening. 2nd choice is Kubiak though, he would know which of the defensive staff would be a good fit for the defense he wants to run.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

give me kubiak - jordan love - rg and rt

 

[PACardsFan]

Klint Kubiak?

Exactly who I’m leaning towards!

 

[DVontel]

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[slanidrac16]

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McVay
Shanahan
Donaldson
Advice to their assistants.
You don’t want to go there, do you? I mean, I like you and it won’t be fun laying a whooping on you twice a year.

 

[PACardsFan]

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I like the idea of taking the OC away from either Rams or Seahawks.

 

[DVontel]

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