Next draft is huge for me on Monti

[TigToad]

I’m not okay passing up Defensive Player Of The Year type talent for an OT that isn’t even the 3RD best OT… IN HIS OWN DRAFT, much less the rest of the league.

When you have the 3rd pick in the draft, you need a superstar. Not an okay LT and magic beans.

I hear you. I agree. But, the last two games really show how much mussed PJJ when he’s hurt.

 

[blindseyed]

Yeah, I will be concerned with DRob heading into next season. Is it fair to judge him yet, given his lengthy injury? Perhaps not, but I can't help but be worried when he's getting blown five yards off the ball routinely. I saw some ugly tendencies from DRob last night.

Understand that, I'm more apt to give him a break this year since he was injured and he's a rookie getting put into NFL action right after that injury, he needs to grow and learn this off-season and if he doesn't show out next season then I'll be upset lol

 

[Stout]

Understand that, I'm more apt to give him a break this year since he was injured and he's a rookie getting put into NFL action right after that injury, he needs to grow and learn this off-season and if he doesn't show out next season then I'll be upset lol

It's just frustrating because what do you do in the draft now? Can you count on him or not?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree that Robinson has shown very little this year. Hope he can have a huge jump like Jalen Carter has had in his 2nd year in Philly. Last year he was a disappointment. This year he is wrecking pockets every game. He's not going to be Jalen Carter good, but taking a big jump would do wonders.
This isn't a particularly good OL draft and other than adding a 3rd WR, the focus should be on the defensive side of the ball. With the great depth at DL in the draft, I'd be focusing on edge in round 1 unless a great DT talent falls in your lap.

 

[DVontel]

I think DRob deserves a pass since I bet that Calf injury is still lingering. Also I could be wrong, but it feels like he gets double-teamed more than any of our iDL

 

[BritCard]

The Rams completely revamped their defense this year, in one draft. Seattle did it in a couple of drafts with Woolen, Witherspoon and some young linemen and edges. We got Garrett Williams and I still have hopes for D Rob, we NEED to hit on multiple defensive picks next year.

How did they revamp their defense?

We have had a tougher SOS but outrank them in total yards allowed (18th to 25th), yards per play (19th to 25th), rushing yards per game (19th to 24th), passing yards per game (14th to 20th) and points per game (14th to 15th).

Yes, they found a couple of nice players on D, but our D outperformed them.

 

[602 Native]

7 picks in the first 90 spots in the draft and not a single game changer in any of them year 1.

I’m already disappointed in MO. He hasn’t lit the world on fire except gutting the team and not able to replenish it.

 

[Lefty]

Even though the experts are not particularly high on Kyle McCord, he puts up big numbers and wins. He would not be a bad fifth-round pick.

 

[Harry]

By the time you get to where we are drafting you are looking at Jalen Milroe or Quinn Ewers at best. Sorry, no thanks.

Shadeur Sanders is the second best player on his own college team. Giving a ransom to move up for him or Ward is lunacy.

7 picks in the first 90 spots in the draft and not a single game changer in any of them year 1.

I’m already disappointed in MO. He hasn’t lit the world on fire except gutting the team and not able to replenish it.

Yet we have a better ststistical D than the Rams. It’s not always about stars. It’s about getting players who can function in the league. It’s also realizing that guys like Robinson and Harrison may take some acclimating. Ossenfort’s drafts have filled so many holes they’ve exceptional. Look at the CBs. Look at the sacks with potentially their best rushers hurt. Ossenfort is building a roster with depth that can compete on a steady basis. Williams is a game changer already. He’s learning to be a ballhawk, which was not what was asked of him in college. I think Benson will be an impact player. Russ is right you can cobble together a defense in one year. It helps if the offense can score. The Cards outplayed the Ram but lost. They’re still learning how to win. The NFL standard is 3-5 years for a total rebuild, which was what the Cards faced. Until Murray plays better the Cards don’t win steadily no matter how many impact players they have.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

7 picks in the first 90 spots in the draft and not a single game changer in any of them year 1.

I’m already disappointed in MO. He hasn’t lit the world on fire except gutting the team and not able to replenish it.

Monti's drafting has been very good. He's hitting on a very high % right now. These young guys are playing, contributing and getting better.
Paris, Marvin, Williams, Melton, Robinson, BJ, Reimer, Wilson et al have played meaningful minutes and will be the foundation. Hell, other than Elijah Jones, who has been injured, the top 10 picks from this year have been in 90% of the games this year.
Last year's class have all played and had impact and, other than injury and Tune being a backup QB, they've all been on the field 90% of the time when their healthy.

18 of his 21 picks have been on the field.

 

[kerouac9]

Last year he was a disappointment

Versus lofty expectations maybe but he was really, really good in flashes last year.

 

[SoonerLou]

I think DRob deserves a pass since I bet that Calf injury is still lingering. Also I could be wrong, but it feels like he gets double-teamed more than any of our iDL

MHJ and DROB would have both benefited if we kept DHOP and Zach Allen.

I'm starting to believe we should just keep our good players

Now do we still get MHJ/DROB? I think so or at least get quality options. I still believe DROB would have been there at the top of the 2nd round.

We would have "lucked" out that the Bears favored Odunze and the Giants loved Nabers alpha mentality.

 

[kerouac9]

The NFL standard is 3-5 years for a total rebuild, which was what the Cards faced

Weird. Tell that to the chargers and Commies.

 

[QuebecCard]

I'm with you, I'll be watching what he does in Free Agency as much (if not more) as the draft. If he sits on cap space again I'm gonna be so pissed lol

It's about CASH, not Cap space.

 

[602 Native]

Yet we have a better ststistical D than the Rams. It’s not always about stars. It’s about getting players who can function in the league. It’s also realizing that guys like Robinson and Harrison may take some acclimating. Ossenfort’s drafts have filled so many holes they’ve exceptional. Look at the CBs. Look at the sacks with potentially their best rushers hurt. Ossenfort is building a roster with depth that can compete on a steady basis. Williams is a game changer already. He’s learning to be a ballhawk, which was not what was asked of him in college. I think Benson will be an impact player. Russ is right you can cobble together a defense in one year. It helps if the offense can score. The Cards outplayed the Ram but lost. They’re still learning how to win. The NFL standard is 3-5 years for a total rebuild, which was what the Cards faced. Until Murray plays better the Cards don’t win steadily no matter how many impact players they have.

I don’t share your enthusiasm of where this team is after the bye.

The Rams D is also young and shut us out in the first half. Don’t know what you were trying to say here.

Against good teams our D has been horrific.

We have been learning to win since 1988 and still haven’t done it consistently ever.

The rebuild timeline seems to keep getting longer. It started at 2 years now it’s 3-5. Next season let’s see if it can go to 6-8. Meanwhile real teams get turned around in 2 yrs and some in 1.

 

[602 Native]

MHJ and DROB would have both benefited if we kept DHOP and Zach Allen.

I'm starting to believe we should just keep our good players

Now do we still get MHJ/DROB? I think so or at least get quality options. I still believe DROB would have been there at the top of the 2nd round.

We would have "lucked" out that the Bears favored Odunze and the Giants loved Nabers alpha mentality.

I will never understand MO coming in and not signing guys that were performing on the roster. It seemed like a total ego driven decision.

You don’t get credit for rebuilding the house when you burned it down.

 

[BritCard]

I think Monti has drafted well so far. Lots of them starting or getting significant snaps. Far less washout than Keim.

His biggest whiff so far has been drafting Robinson over Sweat, Newton and Fiske. And I don't think that's hindsight, I think it was obvious at the time.

 

[602 Native]

I think Monti has drafted well so far. Lots of them starting or getting significant snaps. Far less washout than Keim.

His biggest whiff so far has been drafting Robinson over Sweat, Newton and Fiske. And I don't think that's hindsight, I think it was obvious at the time.

Will Anderson is his biggest whiff and it’s not close.

 

[Card'em]

I think Monti has drafted well so far. Lots of them starting or getting significant snaps. Far less washout than Keim.

His biggest whiff so far has been drafting Robinson over Sweat, Newton and Fiske. And I don't think that's hindsight, I think it was obvious at the time.

Way too early to call the Robinson first round pick a "whiff", or assert that other players drafted after him are better players. Robinson has missed over half of his rookie season with an injury.

There's a long list of impact players that didn't show up until their second season in the NFL, including our own Trey McBride. Can we at least wait until the end of his second year before passing judgement on Robinson?

 

[BritCard]

Will Anderson is his biggest whiff and it’s not close.

Nah. Paris is a very good tackle and the only way is up.

Easy to argue it was the right move, especially after Hump went down,and I was a Will Anderson guy. I think at worse it's a tie.

DRob vs those 3 defensive tackles is a clear and obvious whiff.

 

[FB94]

Draft picks have shown promise IMO, played a lot of minutes this year. Made rookie mistakes etc but contributed this year. Robinson still may not be 100% but didn’t see anything to tell me he will win as a pass rusher. Need a true threat on the edge with a pocket collapsing DT or two, this will help everyone on d line. Speed WR is a must, but the single biggest ? Mark is still the QB

 

[BritCard]

Way too early to call the Robinson first round pick a "whiff", or assert that other players drafted after him are better players. Robinson has missed over half of his rookie season with an injury.

There's a long list of impact players that didn't show up until their second season in the NFL, including our own Trey McBride. Can we at least wait until the end of his second year before passing judgement on Robinson?

He has 2 pressures and 2 solo tackles on 115 snaps.

Yes, you can say it's early, and DTs can take time in the NFL, but having watched him he's so far confirmed everything I thought he was when we drafted him.

I'm hoping for a miracle but would not surprise me a little if he's never more than a JAG. I'd move him to Edge and draft a DT.

 

[Dayman]

I agree that Robinson has shown very little this year. Hope he can have a huge jump like Jalen Carter has had in his 2nd year in Philly. Last year he was a disappointment. This year he is wrecking pockets every game. He's not going to be Jalen Carter good, but taking a big jump would do wonders.
This isn't a particularly good OL draft and other than adding a 3rd WR, the focus should be on the defensive side of the ball. With the great depth at DL in the draft, I'd be focusing on edge in round 1 unless a great DT talent falls in your lap.

Carter finished second in DROY voting last year and had 6 sacks.

 

[DVontel]

Nah. Paris is a very good tackle and the only way is up.

Easy to argue it was the right move, especially after Hump went down,and I was a Will Anderson guy. I think at worse it's a tie.

DRob vs those 3 defensive tackles is a clear and obvious whiff.

It’s not a tie man lol Will is inching close to elite status while Paris is a very solid/good Tackle. Guess what? We still need a EDGE. Not a huge whiff, but it’s something that can’t be ignored.

 

[Dr. Jones]

We haven't consistently drafted well since Denny Green was in town. I have zero expectation of that changing when we get the 2nd and third choices for coaches & GM's.

This is a never-ending cycle that starts at the owner level and trickles down to the front office and then the players.