NBA Draft: Thursday, June 22, 2023; Suns are scheduled to select at #52.

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I thought I heard 5M.

I think it adjusts from season to season base on the cap

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think it adjusts from season to season base on the cap

That makes sense.

 

[Ronin]

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[AzStevenCal]

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Clearly, no BBIQ or one hell of a sense of humor.

 

[Muggz]

This with the 52?

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I want it for the bench unit.

 

[Covert Rain]

This with the 52?

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All that overdribbling is going to get him eaten alive at the NBA level. Plus, he seems like a bit of a black hole once he touches the ball. Might be all that we can get at this pick anyway.

 

[Mainstreet]

This with the 52?

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I want it for the bench unit.

I like his quickness. Maybe sign him to a two-way contact.

 

[Muggz]

All that overdribbling is going to get him eaten alive at the NBA level. Plus, he seems like a bit of a black hole once he touches the ball. Might be all that we can get at this pick anyway.

He would have to adjust to NBA and he's small. But he's blinding quick has great handles and can penetrate and kick out and might just be a bit better than Payne.

 

[Proximo]

I don't want a point guard. We need to draft a wing or a big.

 

[Proximo]

Now teams just outright buy second round picks. No one has done that with a first yet. Doesn't that just sound like a precedent or challenge Ishbia would try?

Isn't there a limit on the amount you can pay - something like 5 million?

If that's the case I really doubt anyone would sell one for that price.

 

[Mainstreet]

I like the idea the Suns seem to be going through the process of actually drafting a player. Hopefully, it shows a future commitment to the draft.

As far as I know, the Suns should have a first round pick in the 2024 draft.

 

[SunsTzu]

I like the idea the Suns seem to be going through the process of actually drafting a player. Hopefully, it shows a future commitment to the draft.

As far as I know, the Suns should have a first round pick in the 2024 draft.

I'm mostly interested in seeing the scouting department expanded. Not sure how many changes have been made in the few months Ishbia has been owner. Under Sarver the Suns had among the fewest scouts in the league and some comments JJ made in the past about the amount of time, or lack thereof spent scouting for the draft always concerned me.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm mostly interested in seeing the scouting department expanded. Not sure how many changes have been made in the few months Ishbia has been owner. Under Sarver the Suns had among the fewest scouts in the league and some comments JJ made in the past about the amount of time, or lack thereof spent scouting for the draft always concerned me.

I feel the same way. I'd prioritize scouting even over having a G-League team, although ultimately they should go hand in hand.

The Suns should invest heavily in scouting. Right now, it seems like the Suns are looking for players that are ready to play at the NBA level.

During the next phase, presumably rebuild, we will see a heavy investment in developing young players.

Of course the Heat seem to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

[CardNots]

He would have to adjust to NBA and he's small. But he's blinding quick has great handles and can penetrate and kick out and might just be a bit better than Payne.

Blinding quick in European league

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Blinding quick in European league

Euro league is more physical and generally has worse spacing. In some ways it's harder to look good there. It's part of the reason a lot of guys were sleeping on Luka when he was entering the draft. He certainly made the doubters look silly.

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm a homer but I'll say it now, whoever gets Jaime Jaquez Jr is going to be getting a steal. Has to improve his 3 point shot, there's injury concern with his ankles but he plays the game the right way, surprised at the combine with workouts, his vert was terrific. Just a great kid.

I actually want the Warriors to take him but my understanding is he's not on their radar.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Suns gave the Wizard's 6 second rounders and the Nets 5 1st rounders. Say goodby to the draft unless picks are bought.

 

[Proximo]

Suns gave the Wizard's 6 second rounders and the Nets 5 1st rounders. Say goodby to the draft unless picks are bought.

Still get 1st's every other year, but yeah, I'm not real happy about having very little draft capital for the next 7 years.

 

[Raindog]

It really is strange following the trends of valuation of NBA draft picks over time. When I was growing up in the 1970s/1980s, NBA draft picks, through the end of the first round and into even the later rounds (the draft used to last up to 12 rounds at one point) had real trade value and were often assets in major trades.

Then that seemed to change at some point in the late 1990s and through a good portion of time up until the present, when lots of teams would routinely sell off or just straight up dump their picks (often right after making selections with them) they were so devalued.

Now with the new CBA, it seems that even second round picks, which literally were considered to be garbage as far as trade value until... well, now... seem to have renewed value as assets.

 

[Mainstreet]

John Gambadoro thinks there is a chance the Suns could move up in the draft.

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[Mainstreet]

It really is strange following the trends of valuation of NBA draft picks over time. When I was growing up in the 1970s/1980s, NBA draft picks, through the end of the first round and into even the later rounds (the draft used to last up.to 12 rounds at one point) had real trade value and were often assets in major trades.

Then that seemed to change at some point in the late 1990s and through a good portion of time up until the present, when lots of teams would routinely sell off or just straight up dump their picks (often right after making select with them) they were so devalued.

Now with the new CBA, it seems that even second round picks, which literally were considered to be garbage as far as trade value until... well, now... seem to be have renewed value as assets.

Also, it seems like teams now bundle second round picks to present more value in a trade when 1st round picks are not available.

 

[Proximo]

John Gambadoro thinks there is a chance the Suns could move up in the draft.

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How? Just cash - cause other than Ayton that's all we got. Unless they are shopping Payne - don't even think he could get us more than a 2nd though.

 

[Muggz]

How many picks in tonight's draft could we get for Ayton? I think I'd rather have 5ish rookies with heart.

 

[Mainstreet]

How? Just cash - cause other than Ayton that's all we got. Unless they are shopping Payne - don't even think he could get us more than a 2nd though.

Are there rules anymore? It doesn't feel like it and the value of players have been turned upside down.

I will see what Mat Ishbia is serving for dinner.

 

[Dback Jon]

It really is strange following the trends of valuation of NBA draft picks over time. When I was growing up in the 1970s/1980s, NBA draft picks, through the end of the first round and into even the later rounds (the draft used to last up.to 12 rounds at one point) had real trade value and were often assets in major trades.

Then that seemed to change at some point in the late 1990s and through a good portion of time up until the present, when lots of teams would routinely sell off or just straight up dump their picks (often right after making selections with them) they were so devalued.

Now with the new CBA, it seems that even second round picks, which literally were considered to be garbage as far as trade value until... well, now... seem to be have renewed value as assets.

Draft picks used to be more of a known commodity. Still a crap shoot, but better ideas.

With so many players doing One and Done, G-League, and Overseas, teams don't have the data and feel for players like they used to - making picks less valuable since you have so many busts.