Kyler to Steelers?

[Shane]

I'm not one to pay attention to cap hits because the cap is kind of a farce and can be easily manipulated but what would the cap deal be if the Cards traded Murray for Trevor Lawrence? They make similar $$$ per year.

Why would anyone trade for Trevor freaking Lawrence?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Why would anyone trade for Trevor freaking Lawrence?

He was amazing in high school.

 

[602 Native]

Why would anyone trade for Trevor freaking Lawrence?

Haven't you heard.

He is tall.
He has a big arm.
He isn't on the team now so he must be better.

 

[oaken1]

I think the shine will be off Darnold when the Rams knock them out of the playoffs this weekend. At least from Minnesota's POV.

Yeah...because losing to a McVay coached team that's been on a hot streak since November is a huge red flag

 

[PDXChris]

Haven't you heard.

He is tall.
He has a big arm.
He isn't on the team now so he must be better.

It's funny, Kyler has a much better winning percentage than Lawrence.

Kyler - .440
Trevor - .366

 

[602 Native]

Yeah...because losing to a McVay coached team that's been on a hot streak since November is a huge red flag

Now do K1 the year he lost to that same scenario.

 

[slanidrac16]

Haven't you heard.

He is tall.
He has a big arm.
He isn't on the team now so he must be better.

Poor Trevor has never been on a good team…sound familiar?

 

[oaken1]

Now do K1 the year he lost to that same scenario.

If Sam quits on his team to pout on the bench he won't get any slack from me.

But he wont.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

It's funny, Kyler has a much better winning percentage than Lawrence.

Kyler - .440
Trevor - .366

Postseason:

Kyler 0-1
Trevor 1-1

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Of course the Steelers would want Kyler Murray. At QB 15 he is better than any available option next year and will only count for 19% of the cap space.

Trading him means we punt on next year and draft someone in 2026. There are a ton of good QBs though in that draft. Honestly you can probably keep Murray for a year and still get his replacement the next year if you want off him.

 

[Dback Jon]

Insipid hyperbolic garbage response.

I’m acting like a fan who’s watched Kyler Murray turn into a pumpkin and crash and burn every second half of a season, missing the playoffs 5 of 6 seasons with the lone time he got in there, he backed in and then got humiliated in one of the worst playoff performances of all time.

Expecting different for the next two years… just… because… is acting like someone who hasn’t watched the last six seasons of the Cardinals.

LOL - you are calling me an insipid hyperbolic garbage response while saying it is a fantasy that the Cardinals could make the playoffs next year?

Dude, do you ever look in a mirror?

 

[Dback Jon]

Of course the Steelers would want Kyler Murray. At QB 15 he is better than any available option next year and will only count for 19% of the cap space.

Trading him means we punt on next year and draft someone in 2026. There are a ton of good QBs though in that draft. Honestly you can probably keep Murray for a year and still get his replacement the next year if you want off him.

Correct - and if Kyler does well, you do the Jordan Love route, or trade the drafted QB.

 

[Dback Jon]

He was amazing in high school.

He has bitchin hair!

 

[Redsz]

He has bitchin hair!

He needs to get a haircut lol

 

[602 Native]

Poor Trevor has never been on a good team…sound familiar?

His coach is a Super Bowl Winning HC. That guy knows how to win with talent.

 

[PDXChris]

Postseason:

Kyler 0-1
Trevor 1-1

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Lawrence is paid more than Murray, is under contract longer than Murray and has a much worse winning percentage. Lawrence doesn't make us better by replacing Kyler. If we arent making the playoffs with Kyler, we aren't with Lawrence. His single post season win is meaningless if he can't get you there.

Based on your thinking Brock Osweiler is better than Kyler.

Playoffs
Kyler 0-1
Brock 1-1

BTW, Lamar Jackson has the 4th worst playoff record all time with at least 5 or more starts at 2-4.

 

[Stout]

Note: trading Kyler this year and probably next year is a fantasy that will not happen due to cap constraints

Note: the quoted post is a fantasy that the team and FO sure would like for us to believe, because it would be convenient team propaganda. We should know better.

 

[Stout]

lol. This team was basically two bad calls away from making the playoffs this year.

You act like we’re a one and 16 team

The team was similarly close to another 4-13 season type season. See, choosing to pretend like we could be way better if a few things just swung in our favor can also be an argument in the other direction.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Id probably Trade Kyler then sign Russell. I know he's a douche and imperfect, but if I could get him for a lot less and get a 1st for Murray, I'd do it.

No thanks. I’d rather start Tune for a year to lock in the 1st overall pick in ‘26 and get our guy there.

 

[Stout]

I think the only way forward if you keep Kyler is to just build up the offense to the point where it's an easy handoff and an easy pass all of the time....which means the team has to explore other alternatives. Kyler pisses me off because every time I write him off, he has a game like he did against the Niners.

lol If that game did anything to make you un-write him off, I've got some oceanfront land in Kansas you're sure to love.

 

[Dback Jon]

The team was similarly close to another 4-13 season type season. See, choosing to pretend like we could be way better if a few things just swung in our favor can also be an argument in the other direction.

The team was a lot closer to 10-7 than 4-13.

 

[Stout]

The team was a lot closer to 10-7 than 4-13.

You're right. We only had the three squeaker wins. So we're just as close to 5-12 as we were to 10-7. Yay, big improvement there.

We're not a playoff team. We don't have the talent or the QB. We also have a lame duck owner and a conservative GM. Chances that the above problems change significantly this offseason?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Yeah...because losing to a McVay coached team that's been on a hot streak since November is a huge red flag .

Did you watch Darnold play in his teams biggest game? He was bad.

If he has another bad game this week, well, you’ll see.

He’ll get a contract with another team but Minnesota will go to JJ.

 

[oaken1]

You're right. We only had the three squeaker wins. So we're just as close to 5-12 as we were to 10-7. Yay, big improvement there.

We're not a playoff team. We don't have the talent or the QB. We also have a lame duck owner and a conservative GM. Chances that the above problems change significantly this offseason?

We saw the blueprint in 2021.
To get to the playoffs with kyler we have to get 10 wins before December

 

[oaken1]

Did you watch Darnold play in his teams biggest game? He was bad.

If he has another bad game this week, well, you’ll see.

He’ll get a contract with another team but Minnesota will go to JJ.

Are you referring to the Detroit game? Because he certainly wasn't horrible... but the game wasn't huge.