I will give them a C...
as in, let's CEEEEE what happens in september
as in, let's CEEEEE what happens in september
Judging the Cardinals offseason....
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Jetstream Green
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We got our QBOF, but have a hot garbage backup and an always broken never-has-been starting. Bottom 10 QB room at best! IMO
We shall see this season. I assume since we will have a bottom ten room we will also have a bottom ten record IYO? I would also speculate that we come in last in the west from your opinion.
I would wager that we not only have a winning record but we also make the playoffs.
This. A fullback can most certainly be in there for pass blocking just as much as for run blocking. Don't know why K9 would think a fb automatically would mean a run. Any coach worth his salt would know to use him in multiple scenarios as not to tell the other team they are going to run when they do.
Stout
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I'd love to lose that bet, but I don't see it happening. Unless Rosen comes in and saves the day.
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Yep!
Is our Oline better? Maybe at RG & that’s it, so Bradford will get hit at a high rate if we’re forced into a passing game from being behind. There’s no chance this team wins 11 games as he has said before.
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PP, Chandler Jone, Fitz, DJ - would start on any NFL team. Let that sink in - marinate for a moment - I have a lot of belief that Sam is a top 10 or better QB - will see if it turns to faith - chicken littles seem to think he is the only QB to have injuries in their career - Palmer had a couple and I think Sam slightly upgraded Palmer and has much left in the tank.AS Sam stays healthy - Rosen may not be or get good enough to take his job. This is a real possibility - and great for Cardinals - Really Sam is hard to beat out - I’ll support him totally until the sky really falls.
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More than 1 in 3 tries isnt meaningful? Hot take. (wanted you to understand)
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Agreed, but the threat is there.
I don't know about you, but if I am a defensive coordinator, and you have David Johnson out there, and he splits out, and the best you have on him is a linebacker, that is a problem, and potentially a 6 points with one throw problem.
We will see, it is a new coach, he may think he can dictate the game, and run the ball regardless. Lots of questions.
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To be fair, it is because the numbers prove it to be true. No doubt, players like DJ make it more likely to have a pass thrown in there, and with DJ that pass could be 6 points, but in the end, this team is going to be trying to slam the ball down team's throats, that is if Wilks stands by this statements.
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Denver ran 70% of the time last season when they had more than 2 RBs on the field.
Pittsburgh, with the best receiving RB in the NFL last year, rushed 84% of the time when 2 RBs were on the field.
Pittsburgh, with the best receiving RB in the NFL last year, rushed 84% of the time when 2 RBs were on the field.
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I give the Cardinals a B.
I would have really liked to see a high end cornerback talent in the draft. If Christian Kirk is a non-factor, then I will be lamenting this team passed on Carlton Davis, who just from reading, sounds like he is going to be starting for the Bucs.
But it is what it is, Kirk may be that wide receiver we need and flourish, and Davis end being a bust, or visa versa. You never know.
In the end, I think the Cardinals did a pretty good job with all the change that happened. Would I be surprised if they absolutely suck......nope. But, I think that will not be the case.
For a fan, who is going to pay money for a product? I give the offseason a A+++.
I do not think I was ever more melancholy about the Cardinals than I was at the end of last season, and in NFL football in general.
But, I am quite interested in seeing not only Josh Rosen, but Bradford play, the switch to the 4-3 on defense, and the offensive scheme.
Bruce Arians' offense was very exciting, with a game winning, big play coming at any moment, at least that is, when they were a good team.
But, in the new age NFL, I think it was time for the Cardinals to join the league in the new aged offenses.
And like I say, we will see.
I would have really liked to see a high end cornerback talent in the draft. If Christian Kirk is a non-factor, then I will be lamenting this team passed on Carlton Davis, who just from reading, sounds like he is going to be starting for the Bucs.
But it is what it is, Kirk may be that wide receiver we need and flourish, and Davis end being a bust, or visa versa. You never know.
In the end, I think the Cardinals did a pretty good job with all the change that happened. Would I be surprised if they absolutely suck......nope. But, I think that will not be the case.
For a fan, who is going to pay money for a product? I give the offseason a A+++.
I do not think I was ever more melancholy about the Cardinals than I was at the end of last season, and in NFL football in general.
But, I am quite interested in seeing not only Josh Rosen, but Bradford play, the switch to the 4-3 on defense, and the offensive scheme.
Bruce Arians' offense was very exciting, with a game winning, big play coming at any moment, at least that is, when they were a good team.
But, in the new age NFL, I think it was time for the Cardinals to join the league in the new aged offenses.
And like I say, we will see.
Perfectly stated.
Rugby, thank you for jotting down my thoughts! Damn you are good
kerouac9
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Let me put away my sniper rifle for a second.
This is a hard offseason to evaluate. Arians left, and Carson Palmer followed him out the door. The Cards could've tried to limp along with an internal promotion, but they didn't. They decided to hit the reset button on their coaching staff and system.
People I know have met with Coach Wilks and like him. These are people are close friends with BA and know the game. My opinion is that there are very few coaches who make a positive difference. A handful of them are absolute poison, but most of them are interchangeable. Arians was exceptional at adding positive value through inculcating a culture of winning and making late-game adjustments that created wins. He was also an offensive coach who was an assistant for a bunch of defensive coaches.
I have little doubt that Wilks will be able to handle the administrative duties from Monday to Saturday. I have little faith that he'll make a difference on game days, TBH.
From a personnel perspective, we're without doubt a worse roster now than we were a year ago at this time. Our scariest receiving threat is a running back who played in one game last year. Our quarterback played one good game last year, leavening a career of being average.
If you think about it, Troy Niklas being an utter bust really hurts this team. Right now, he should be entering his prime as a reliable midfield option and blocker. Now we have a guy who ruptured his Achilles in Week 14 (or whatever). Tight ends take a long time to develop, and one could be a priority free agent next offseason.
On defense, we retooled the personnel and the scheme for our best unit. The old personnel philosophy was founded on "positional flexibility," something we've heard very little from the new coach, who declared we'd be running a four-down lineman, one-gap system that is "black and white."
The biggest question for me is how budding star Budda Baker will be leveraged. He played way more snaps than I thought last season, but if he doesn't get the chance to play in the box or as a slot defensive back when the Cards use 5 defensive backs, it will hurt his ability to impact games. The good news is that few teams rushed a DB more than Carolina did last season.
The best news is that the Cards have a potential long-term solution to the quarterback question. I like Rosen a lot, and it'll be interesting to see how Wilks and Keim handle the pressure if Bradford plays middling football and the Cards lost a bunch of games 21-14.
I'll give the offseason a C-. We could be in for a rough 2018.
This is a hard offseason to evaluate. Arians left, and Carson Palmer followed him out the door. The Cards could've tried to limp along with an internal promotion, but they didn't. They decided to hit the reset button on their coaching staff and system.
People I know have met with Coach Wilks and like him. These are people are close friends with BA and know the game. My opinion is that there are very few coaches who make a positive difference. A handful of them are absolute poison, but most of them are interchangeable. Arians was exceptional at adding positive value through inculcating a culture of winning and making late-game adjustments that created wins. He was also an offensive coach who was an assistant for a bunch of defensive coaches.
I have little doubt that Wilks will be able to handle the administrative duties from Monday to Saturday. I have little faith that he'll make a difference on game days, TBH.
From a personnel perspective, we're without doubt a worse roster now than we were a year ago at this time. Our scariest receiving threat is a running back who played in one game last year. Our quarterback played one good game last year, leavening a career of being average.
If you think about it, Troy Niklas being an utter bust really hurts this team. Right now, he should be entering his prime as a reliable midfield option and blocker. Now we have a guy who ruptured his Achilles in Week 14 (or whatever). Tight ends take a long time to develop, and one could be a priority free agent next offseason.
On defense, we retooled the personnel and the scheme for our best unit. The old personnel philosophy was founded on "positional flexibility," something we've heard very little from the new coach, who declared we'd be running a four-down lineman, one-gap system that is "black and white."
The biggest question for me is how budding star Budda Baker will be leveraged. He played way more snaps than I thought last season, but if he doesn't get the chance to play in the box or as a slot defensive back when the Cards use 5 defensive backs, it will hurt his ability to impact games. The good news is that few teams rushed a DB more than Carolina did last season.
The best news is that the Cards have a potential long-term solution to the quarterback question. I like Rosen a lot, and it'll be interesting to see how Wilks and Keim handle the pressure if Bradford plays middling football and the Cards lost a bunch of games 21-14.
I'll give the offseason a C-. We could be in for a rough 2018.
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probably because no one but you believes the top ten QB thing.
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I’ll be shocked if we win more than 5 games this season. I won’t be mad, though. Got our franchise QB, & the closer to Ed Oliver, the better.
Rosen has already beat Sam out.
articles were coming out last month quoting Sam about accepting a teaching role and helping Rosen to get ready to start.
if Sam starts the season it will only be to fine tune the offense before they put Rosen on the field.
right?? a top three pick in the first few rounds goes a long ways towards making your team better for the long haul.
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Doubtful.
That's a little bit of a reach.
Jetstream Green
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All our opinions are going to be a hand grenade thrown into the fire right now with a new coaching staff and the talent which is there under a new regime... going to be interesting to watch and I believe in Rosen
THESMEL
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Well boogers - Rosen is up there with elite NFL QBs before camp! If he can accomplish proccesing pre snap decisions, choosing the open man and top NFL accuracy with Fitz’s sticky fingers - we could see streaks of 10 plus completions every game. Hell we could just toss the #1 overall draft pick and his $40 million contract right on the scrap heap of history - healthy or not. Who is they?
