Jeremiyah Love No Matter What

[oaken1]

yeah if I were going to take Branch in the 2nd it would be a trade down I honestly don't see him getting to the 3rd round. KO returns isn't nearly as important with the new KO rules but he's an elite punt returner too I would love to have him. The way the WR's in this draft are bouncing around in ratings has me suspecting there will eventually be a run on WR's in the draft

Has a lot of former Cards WR John Brown in him IMO

Let's hope he doesn't have sickle cell like John Brown..the Arizona heat did a number on that poor dude.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Harry]

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Smoke

 

[GimmedaBall]

Smoke

Where there's smoke, there's fire. At 3-14, Cards have so many needs. Let's bring in a BPA who can move the needle on the offense and get him in place for our next QB (either this year or next). Love is a two-fer, RB and slot WR. We need some star power and someone who can take it to the house on any given play,

 

[Gandhi]

Love is a two-fer, RB and slot WR. We need some star power and someone who can take it to the house on any given play,

Some people on this message board are against hybrid-players like that after what happened with Simmons.

I have thought for a long time that they would select Love because that is what Bidwill wants. I don’t think there is any doubt about that. To me, the only question is if he will allow Ossenfort to make the pick, because I highly doubt that Ossenfort will deviate from taking premium positions in the first couple of rounds. I think he believes that is the right way to construct a team (which I agree with).

 

[az jam]

I agree with Harry that picking Love is a smoke screen to move down. I think they signed RB Algiers to be the lead back and they also resigned Connor. If they can't trade down they most likely will take either Reese or Bailey whichever one is available after the Jets pick.

 

[slanidrac16]

Some people on this message board are against hybrid-players like that after what happened with Simmons.

I have thought for a long time that they would select Love because that is what Bidwill wants. I don’t think there is any doubt about that. To me, the only question is if he will allow Ossenfort to make the pick, because I highly doubt that Ossenfort will deviate from taking premium positions in the first couple of rounds. I think he believes that is the right way to construct a team (which I agree with).

Color me one of the ones afraid of hybrids. I’m also afraid that any defensive player is not going to be enough to stymie the offenses in our division.

ML is the true wild card here. What’s this offense going to look like? It seemed Gannons philosophy was dependent on every drive being a 12 play 7 to 8 minute drive. It’s nice when you can do that but on occasion you need to be able to strike fast.

It’s the 3rd pick of the draft. There doesn’t appear to be a Will Anderson. It doesn’t appear there is a Joe Thomas or a Quinten Nelson either. Do we really take an o-lineman with a disc problem???

It’s the draft. It’s the 3rd pick. We need to take a player that has the best opportunity to be great no matter what position. Even if it’s a rb or a safety, so called over valued position. If Love is the next McCaffery or Downs is the next Ed Reed, I think we’d all be happy. Bottom line, get a great player with that 3rd pick.

One more thing. If we trade out of the 3rd pick it has to include a first rounder in 2027. I don’t want the Cowboys 12th and 20th pick. I want the 12th, a 2nd, a 1st round in 2027 and an additional 2nd.

 

[slanidrac16]

I agree with Harry that picking Love is a smoke screen to move down. I think the signed RB Algiers to be the lead back and they also resigned Connor. If they can't trade down they most likely will take either Reese or Bailey whichever one is available after the Jets pick.

Reese is a hybrid. At this point Bailey has some issues stopping the run. Bains arms are to short.
Okay, trade down. For who?
We went through rb’s like candy last year.
From everything I’m reading Love is the safest pick in this draft. We all say fix the o-line but with how? Reaching with a first round pick?

 

[Harry]

Talked to a longtime NFL guy who offered an interesting point. Shanahan is atop LaFleur’s coaching. The scout’s point was that Love would offer many of McCaffrey’s skills. So, he would fit some of MLF’s desired offensive scheme. I still think it’s smoke, but the point is interesting.

 

[SECTION 11]

If a CrossFit trainer is also vegan what do they bring up in every single conversation first?

Cold plunging. Hands down.

 

[THESMEL]

I don’t know about all the holes mentioned in our talent, I see a lot of hurt, non developed potential across the board. If any of our top trench draft picks stayed healthy and played high end starter caliber? MHJ ? I am hoping it was 50% coaching, but cards have done squat with high draft picks - no km is going to tear up the NFL - as cards freaking pay for him! Not a little like biggest hit to our cap for next 2 years. Poor insight, poor judgement making poor decisions. I’m balanced offense guy with a lust for RB - but love at 3 is a luxury we cut with km. Better stay in the trenches

 

[Proximo]

Gambo said yesterday, he does not think the Cardinals are going to move down - and even stated they won't unless they are over paid - indicating they want to stick.

I trust Gambo's sources. I think right now Love is the likely pick.

 

[Stout]

Gambo said yesterday, he does not think the Cardinals are going to move down - and even stated they won't unless they are over paid - indicating they want to stick.

I trust Gambo's sources. I think right now Love is the likely pick.

That is freaking outstanding.

 

[Russ Smith]

Gambo said yesterday, he does not think the Cardinals are going to move down - and even stated they won't unless they are over paid - indicating they want to stick.

I trust Gambo's sources. I think right now Love is the likely pick.

This draft is so weird to me. People were touting love here months ago and I was like are you people insane you can't draft a RB that high we need to fix the OL etc. At the same time was saying we need to add speed we have none on offense. And then over the next few weeks I convinced myself Love is the most logical pick he's got the highest ceiling and lowest floor, there is no RT in the draft who's as unlikely to fail as Love is. He's got the speed we need, he's bigger than he looks, he's a threat in the passing game and we can get him.

I usually fixate on a player in the draft from very early on I can't recall ever doing a 180 like I have this year but I am absolutely on board with picking Love.

 

[some dumb guy]

That is freaking outstanding.

May I suggest not shaving for a few days? Most of the better "Wanted" posters show a few days growth

 

[602 Native]

Looks like they are trying to garner interest in the pick.

Don't worry guys we aren't drafting difference makers like Love in this draft.

We are absolutely trading this pick and taking some career backup tackle.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i want to love this draft - i don't want to like it or be ok with it - i want to love this draft

A) draft love

B) trade the 2nd rounder for a first rounder next year

C) draft o-line in rounds 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7

 

[Gandhi]

ML is the true wild card here. What’s this offense going to look like? It seemed Gannons philosophy was dependent on every drive being a 12 play 7 to 8 minute drive. It’s nice when you can do that but on occasion you need to be able to strike fast.

Yes, we simply don’t know what LaFleur wants. I have gone by the assumption that his offense would be inspired by Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay, but who knows?

If that assumption is right, I see two options regarding Love. I think he has similarities to Christian McCaffrey, but I also think that McVay’s offense has worked fine with later drafted, a bit limited runningbacks. So, my point is we don’t get many hints from that perspective.

About an offensive tackle, historically, both those offenses have relied on an outside zone-scheme at the offensive line, and Mauigoa is a bad fit for that. That is why I had them taking Monroe Freeling in my mock draft, but Spencer Fano is also a much better fit than Mauigoa. Iheanachor is too, for that matter. However, last season, McVay and LaFleur incorporated a ton more power running-elements to their offense, and that could open up for players like Mauigoa, Proctor or Blake Miller. Again the conclusion inevitable is that we don’t have many hints about which player fits best.

I understand why many simply follow the national analysts, since we have no idea what type they want, but I think it is necessary to have the dilemma in mind.

One more thing. If we trade out of the 3rd pick it has to include a first rounder in 2027. I don’t want the Cowboys 12th and 20th pick. I want the 12th, a 2nd, a 1st round in 2027 and an additional 2nd.

Yes, I agree that it should be very expensive. I could see scenarios where three picks in the top #34 could make a big difference in terms of the outlook going into this season, but I also agree that they need difference makers, and it might be worth it to pay a little overprize. Reaching for Bain or Bailey might be okay since they are not going to get them outside the top ten, and both could potentially become game changers.

 

[QuebecCard]

Where there's smoke, there's fire. At 3-14, Cards have so many needs. Let's bring in a BPA who can move the needle on the offense and get him in place for our next QB (either this year or next). Love is a two-fer, RB and slot WR. We need some star power and someone who can take it to the house on any given play,

I've been to many a concert with smoke on a stage without a fire.

We need to get to the QB or protect the QB.

When that's done, we can dream of buying a Lambourgini. (IMO)

 

[some dumb guy]

That is freaking outstanding.

Whoops, my bad. Feel free to shave...you were going to end up #1 on the wanted list if we took Simpson at 3

 

[Stout]

Whoops, my bad. Feel free to shave...you were going to end up #1 on the wanted list if we took Simpson at 3

Hey, I'm having elbow surgery tomorrow, so there will be no shaving anyway Also, the Pens are in the playoffs...for now...so it's playoff beard time too. Also also, if you knew me, well, I haven't been beardless since a few weeks on '05

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

I think Love is just different and therefore justifies at least being considered for pick #3. There are a handful of players who have the ability to “outrun” defensive schemes and angles. The running backs who currently do that are Gibbs in Detroit and Achane in Miami. Past backs who could do that were Jamal Charles, Chris Johnson, Bo Jackson, and Eric Dickerson. Willis McGahee could do that until the horrible knee injury. Love consistently did that at Notre Dame. He would break free and safeties with advantageous angles would just get left in the dust. That is an extremely rare and frightening thing for a defense to deal with. Add on that Love is just a tremendous receiving threat and you have justification to take him at #3.

 

[some dumb guy]

Hey, I'm having elbow surgery tomorrow, so there will be no shaving anyway Also, the Pens are in the playoffs...for now...so it's playoff beard time too. Also also, if you knew me, well, I haven't been beardless since a few weeks on '05

Good luck with your surgery...the nurse will be shaving your elbow...LOL
And I always wanted to ask, we know you don't like the stillers but are you an Eagles fan?

Ahhh, I get it now....full beard, so much easier to adjust your look after the Simpson at 3 massacre...LOL

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

if we didn't have brissett tray and wilson i wouldn't want love - defenses would just key in on love - but that wouldn't be the case - we're ready for love

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I think Love is just different and therefore justifies at least being considered for pick #3. There are a handful of players who have the ability to “outrun” defensive schemes and angles. The running backs who currently do that are Gibbs in Detroit and Achane in Miami. Past backs who could do that were Jamal Charles, Chris Johnson, Bo Jackson, and Eric Dickerson. Willis McGahee could do that until the horrible knee injury. Love consistently did that at Notre Dame. He would break free and safeties with advantageous angles would just get left in the dust. That is an extremely rare and frightening thing for a defense to deal with. Add on that Love is just a tremendous receiving threat and you have justification to take him at #3.

How is his pass blocking and picking up blitzes?