Jeremiyah Love No Matter What

[Krangodnzr]

Boy you got sunk anchor fallacy raging high here. Again, where he was drafted in a good draft doesn’t matter. It was what that draft rater rated him at pre draft that we are talking about. And he rated alt as boom or bust. That’s not a top rating. Alt just happened to boom. That doesn’t mean the draft rater is predicting a similar outcome for mauigoa.

By your silly logic Love isn't worth the pick either because his category that he falls under for Zierlein is Year One starter, which means he's just a starter not a star.

Dude, it's just labels that Zierlein has for his tiers.

 

[kerouac9]

We will have:

PJJ - good lt
Seumalo- good guard
Fro - adequate center
And another offseason to sign or trade for established guard and right tackle - also this year and next years draft from 2nd round on which might unearth a player.

How much will Seumalo really have left in his age 35 season tho?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

By your silly logic Love isn't worth the pick either because his category that he falls under for Zierlein is Year One starter, which means he's just a starter not a star.

Dude, it's just labels that Zierlein has for his tiers.

But still tier higher than mauigoa. No matter how you try to argue zierling you come up wrong.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

How much will Seumalo really have left in his age 35 season tho?

I was told offensive linemen now play well into their 60s when I raised that question.

 

[oaken1]

Taking a RB at #3 with no QB is how you stay bad. The Raiders had Josh Jacobs & were bad. Drafted Ashton Jeanty at 6 and are still bad.

You have to get the pieces where opportunity and ability collide.

If drafting a RB this year keeps us bad...then that puts us in better position to draft a QB next year...when there is a better selection.

I mean hell, Moore from Washington would have been QB2 in this draft and likely a top 5 pick..but he went back to school...and some folks are saying he will be QB4 next year and not even a top 10 pick... dude would have likely gone #2 to the Jets...probably why he opted out of going pro...you have to be an exceptional QB talent to survive being on the Jets your first couple seasons in the league.

 

[Redsz]

James Conner just put his house up for sale.

 

[oaken1]

Let’s see what happens when the raiders have jeanty + Mendoza. That would be our trajectory. Draft love this year then too qb next. Would be eerily similar to raiders build

Bowers = mcbride
Jeanty = love
Mendoza = top QB next year

But we would have a head start with a young left tackle and two young receivers.

Yeah...other than Brock they got nobody out in the pattern.
Pretty sure you could lock in WR4 in Vegas if you wanna stoked the dream one more time

 

[oaken1]

How much will Seumalo really have left in his age 35 season tho?

Well...a couple years back in his age 35 season...Trent Williams was a first team all pro.
I'm guessing our guy will rate somewhere between Trent and my fat arse...but much closer to Trent Williams and his All Pro season.

 

[Krangodnzr]

But still tier higher than mauigoa. No matter how you try to argue zierling you come up wrong.

Higher Tier at a lower tier position. Might as well draft a guard!

 

[Stout]

Higher Tier at a lower tier position. Might as well draft a guard!

Isn't that what you're promoting?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah...other than Brock they got nobody out in the pattern.
Pretty sure you could lock in WR4 in Vegas if you wanna stoked the dream one more time

My hands are still elite.
















Everything else = no dice

 

[Russ Smith]

Here is the reality.

Love would be an upgrade at RB
Mauigoa would be an upgrade at RT
Bailey and Reese and Bain would be an upgrade over Browning and Collins
Styles would be an upgrade over Simon.

Basically, all of the players are going to upgrade the team...because that is where the Cardinals are in terms of talent.

I wouldn't even go that far. It's college so different but Styles wasn't even a LB at TOSU when Simon was there. Only after Simon went pro did Styles move from hybrid S to LB. So I would argue he's NOT an upgrade. Simon as the guy in 2024 had 112 tackles solo and assists combined, the next year Styles playing the same position had only 81. Styles is a much better athlete faster etc but I think the problem with Styles is he's still learning how to play LB and been there done that.

But when they were on the same team in college 2 years ago, Simon was the better player

 

[GimmedaBall]

We will have:

PJJ - good lt
Seumalo- good guard
Fro - adequate center
And another offseason to sign or trade for established guard and right tackle - also this year and next years draft from 2nd round on which might unearth a player.

Plus anything in the FA purge that comes after a draft + camp cuts + the FA pool that will be on the market next year.

A whole lot of our players are on rookie deals and/or vets signed for more than this year.

I'd like to see JB perform well and be a legit starter this year. Maybe signed for more time after 2026??? Mid-30's is not out of the question for a starting QB.

 

[GimmedaBall]

My hands are still elite.
















Everything else = no dice

That's what T. Rex Bain said when scouts asked him about his short arms. Also, all the men who broke up with their love interest and were left suddenly alone.

 

[speedy]

Draft BPA. All the time. Every time.

 

[kerouac9]

Plus anything in the FA purge that comes after a draft + camp cuts + the FA pool that will be on the market next year.

This is Rod Graves thinking and it hasn’t been real in like 10 years

 

[GimmedaBall]

This is Rod Graves thinking and it hasn’t been real in like 10 years

Not sure what point you are trying to make???

Are you saying that teams (not just the Cards) don't sort through all the cuts made after the draft, camp cuts, and FA availalbe in the following season---to fill out their roster??

Those cuts after the draft and camp cuts are the best time to fill out the roster and find pieces that you were unable to fill otherwise. It's bargain bin time and Storage Locker finds.

A vet gets cut after the draft because the team picked a high draft pick at his spot; a camp cut was actually someone on the board who went to another team and still is rated higher by a team over what they have.

What am I missing from your comment???

 

[kerouac9]

Not sure what point you are trying to make???

Are you saying that teams (not just the Cards) don't sort through all the cuts made after the draft, camp cuts, and FA availalbe in the following season---to fill out their roster??

Those cuts after the draft and camp cuts are the best time to fill out the roster and find pieces that you were unable to fill otherwise. It's bargain bin time and Storage Locker finds.

A vet gets cut after the draft because the team picked a high draft pick at his spot; a camp cut was actually someone on the board who went to another team and still is rated higher by a team over what they have.

What am I missing from your comment???

That without exception in the past five to ten years the players released after the draft or at final roster cutdowns are useless. Depending on those players to contribute anything is a fools errand.

 

[GimmedaBall]

That without exception in the past five to ten years the players released after the draft or at final roster cutdowns are useless. Depending on those players to contribute anything is a fools errand.

So, that's your story and you are sticking to it?

You do realize that only one player is needed who was picked up either after the draft or final roster cutdowns who contributed to their new team is needed to discredit your fool's statement.

Do you really want to stick with that absurd declaration?

RB Michael Carter was cut and picked up---he was even cut on the last roster moves in 2025 by the Cards. Guess who was our leading rusher last year?

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman said Love is the best athlete he has ever been around. He said Love would be an elite wide receiver or defensive back if he played those positions.

 

[kerouac9]

So, that's your story and you are sticking to it?

You do realize that only one player is needed who was picked up either after the draft or final roster cutdowns who contributed to their new team is needed to discredit your fool's statement.

Do you really want to stick with that absurd declaration?

RB Michael Carter was cut and picked up---he was even cut on the last roster moves in 2025 by the Cards. Guess who was our leading rusher last year?

Yes. The anchor piece to the NFL’s 31st ranked rushing attack definitely obliterates my argument that no valuable players are available post draft/training camp.

You really got me there.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Yes. The anchor piece to the NFL’s 31st ranked rushing attack definitely obliterates my argument that no valuable players are available post draft/training camp.

You really got me there.

That's how easy it was to refute your nonsensical and clueless comment that "without exception in the past five to ten years the players released after the draft or at final roster cutdowns are useless."

The rosters around the entire league are stocked with players who have been cut post draft/training camp. Without exception. That includes guys who went on to the HOF---KW was cut by Green Bay. Look 'em up and educate yourself.

 

[Russ Smith]

Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman said Love is the best athlete he has ever been around. He said Love would be an elite wide receiver or defensive back if he played those positions.

I saw this yesterday so grain of salt but some NFL teams have Love's backup, Jadarian Price, rated the 2nd best RB in the draft behind Love. But Love is so good nobody even talked about Price until a few weeks ago, 3 year career 6 YPC 21 TD's but unable to crack the starting lineup because of how good Love was.

Kind of like when Auburn had 2 first round RBs in the same backfield but those guys split carries where at ND Love was the clear #1

 

[unseenaz]

Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman said Love is the best athlete he has ever been around. He said Love would be an elite wide receiver or defensive back if he played those positions.

If that was true he would be playing one of those more valuable positions.

 

[kerouac9]

I saw this yesterday so grain of salt but some NFL teams have Love's backup, Jadarian Price, rated the 2nd best RB in the draft behind Love. But Love is so good nobody even talked about Price until a few weeks ago, 3 year career 6 YPC 21 TD's but unable to crack the starting lineup because of how good Love was.

Kind of like when Auburn had 2 first round RBs in the same backfield but those guys split carries where at ND Love was the clear #1

I thought this was pretty much the consensus. But the #2 back is considered a 2nd or 3rd round prospect.