Jeremiyah Love No Matter What

[GimmedaBall]

Admire your thoughts but who are you going to cut. Only 3 rbs gonna make the team

With JC coming off a major injury at his age, I see him at most making it to the final roster cut. Out of respect for his effort/leadership, he was kept. Perhaps he will see the writing on the wall and retire.

The Lions had Campbell as a #1 RB and still drafted RB Gibbs---for a time, it was a major one-two punch of Thunder and Lightning. We'll have the same by bringing Love in to pair with Tyler Allgeier. Love for 20 RB touches, 5+ passes in the slot, Allegeir for 20 RB touches and goal-line runs.

 

[Zalixar]

With JC coming off a major injury at his age, I see him at most making it to the final roster cut. Out of respect for his effort/leadership, he was kept. Perhaps he will see the writing on the wall and retire.

The Lions had Campbell as a #1 RB and still drafted RB Gibbs---for a time, it was a major one-two punch of Thunder and Lightning. We'll have the same by bringing Love in to pair with Tyler Allgeier. Love for 20 RB touches, 5+ passes in the slot, Allegeir for 20 RB touches and goal-line runs.

Not 100% agree/disagree that we should draft Love, but I could see a route they may go even with Connor back. I suppose they would approach him about a mentor role before drafting him.

Maybe he stays on another year if it makes sense. Meanwhile, you still have Algier for a couple years+ and we don't have to send Love/anyone to the fire pits like Jeanty. Get experience while keeping him fresh, or take over for injury. Grab a top RT in FA next year, while drafting this year and next.

Benson is on the chopping block. Still tough odds on a luxury pick at this position, but that's where we are in this draft. At least there would be excitement, eh?

If we were "guaranteed" to hit our pick (you know, by a genie, and not including QB of course), we should go defense/pass rusher rather than RT or RB. But, alas.

Which D player is (seemingly) most likely to make a significant impact? And who are the Jets taking at 2?

We should probably take the chance on D though(pending on Jers), but if we can somehow grab our preferred RT/Love with a trade down, I'd take that that probably. It's not like we are passing up Adrian Peterson or Anderson Jr. here. D'oh

 

[mel typer]

With JC coming off a major injury at his age, I see him at most making it to the final roster cut. Out of respect for his effort/leadership, he was kept. Perhaps he will see the writing on the wall and retire.

The Lions had Campbell as a #1 RB and still drafted RB Gibbs---for a time, it was a major one-two punch of Thunder and Lightning. We'll have the same by bringing Love in to pair with Tyler Allgeier. Love for 20 RB touches, 5+ passes in the slot, Allegeir for 20 RB touches and goal-line runs.

First and foremost I understand you want Love. He's awesome. I don't think it's going to happen

 

[Stout]

The Cards already have a running game that is good enough to win, but only with a good line.

So what you're saying is that they actually don't have a running game that is good enough to win.

 

[gimpy]

That is entirely possible.

Yes it is. After all, he is the team president.

 

[BulldogCard]

The only two players I want is Love, Simpson...they need both. I'm starting to think the Oline thing is coaching. Warner got to a SB with an average line at best. Get the skill guys, and get Love right away, then trade up to 15 for Ty. Those Rams guys get consultants, assistant type watch dogs like on D. I'd expect MLf to coach the OL himself. They absolutely sucked last year.

 

[Harry]

So what you're saying is that they actually don't have a running game that is good enough to win.

I’m saying Love would be a luxury. The running game needs a better OL. If they get that I think the running game is good enough to win. Of course until they solve the QB problem, that won’t happen.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Cards already have a running game that is good enough to win, but only with a good line.

A broken older Conner, an as yet unproven oft injured benson and a mid-tier power plodder is “good enough?” Good enough for what? 4-5 wins.

 

[Harry]

A broken older Conner, an as yet unproven oft injured benson and a mid-tier power plodder is “good enough?” Good enough for what? 4-5 wi

“Good enough” to establish a credible running game. Allgeier should be a major contributor. I certainly don’t think adding Love, while a fine RB, would dramatically change the number of wins. Do you? The running game is good enough to allow play action to be reasonably effective. I also think this board gives up on players, especially injured ones, too quickly. I believe Benson can play in this league. Conner played well enough that Benson never got a real chance to establish himself. As soon as he got a legitimate opportunity, he gets a season ending injury. I also think that while Bissett is a quality backup, he’s not good enough to make this a playoff team. Sadly I think this is a 4-5 win team with or without Love.

 

[House of Cards]

I just think that if there were any great OL potential in this draft there would be teams wiling to trade up but I don’t see/hear any prognosticators saying any team might be willing to trade up for any OL in this draft.
I do see where Love might be traded up for still but not nearly as much now only because the FA signings of teams with RB needs—before FA I could see KC-Dallas-NO-Pitt—Sea. I could see any of those teams willing to trade up for Love if not for FA
I can see several teams wiling to trade up for Reese-Bailey-Bain. So if no one is willing to trade up for an OL then why would we be so gung ho to grab an OL that high. If one is worth pick 3 then Someone should at least be interested in trading up for them.
My dream scenario would be trade Dallas for 12 & 20 and maybe a 3rd or 4th next year—-Jerry would love to make a splash for a pass rusher or RB.
Then trade 20 & 34 to KC(KC needs several players to add, they are no longer 1 player away)for 9.
Now you have 9 & 12. Qb goes off at 1 so you have the 8th pick. Out of Bailey-Reese-Bain-Love-Downs-Styles-Delaney-Tate-Mauigoa—-that is 9 players so at least 2 of those guys is there. You pick the highest ranked on your board of whoever of these guys fall to 9, whatever the position, we are bad so take BPA
At 12 if any of those guys are there you run to the podium—if not I would take Ioane who I believe will be a pro bowl guard for 10 years.
Otherwise stick and pick Love

 

[dreamcastrocks]

With JC coming off a major injury at his age, I see him at most making it to the final roster cut. Out of respect for his effort/leadership, he was kept. Perhaps he will see the writing on the wall and retire.

The Lions had Campbell as a #1 RB and still drafted RB Gibbs---for a time, it was a major one-two punch of Thunder and Lightning. We'll have the same by bringing Love in to pair with Tyler Allgeier. Love for 20 RB touches, 5+ passes in the slot, Allegeir for 20 RB touches and goal-line runs.

Why would they restructure his contract if they were just going to let him go?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

“Good enough” to establish a credible running game. Allgeier should be a major contributor. I certainly don’t think adding Love, while a fine RB, would dramatically change the number of wins. Do you? The running game is good enough to allow play action to be reasonably effective. I also think this board gives up on players, especially injured ones, too quickly. I believe Benson can play in this league. Conner played well enough that Benson never got a real chance to establish himself. As soon as he got a legitimate opportunity, he gets a season ending injury. I also think that while Bissett is a quality backup, he’s not good enough to make this a playoff team. Sadly I think this is a 4-5 win team with or without Love.

I think the stable you’re calling “good enough” keeps this team mired in 4-5 wins even if we get a good QB. The passing game isn’t going to be special. I like Mike and hoping for more from MHJ and obviously McBride is a stud. But they aren’t striking dear in anyone. Keep the same stable of RBs we have now and there’s just no big threat on offense. No game breaker. No one you have to really game plan for, other than McBride and he’s still a TE. You add a home run threat at RB with love and all those players slot into better fitting roles in the offense. It’s what allows the current talent to lift beyond the 4-5 win status if we find a QB imo. Otherwise that QB will have a largely pedestrian skill group around him.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I love when someone includes an age to accentuate an argument and then when they find out they were FIVE YEARS off they brush it off as a “don’t matter much.” Lol. Okay krang.

I was talking about when he started in college. I thought he was 17, which would have meant he was 20 when he was drafted. He was 22 when he was drafted.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Are you posting as proof mauaiga is rated higher than love?!? wtf?

Nope, didn't say that. Quit putting words in my mouth.

The sign of a good organization, any organization doesn’t need to be football team is to have your general principle but be flexible to the facts sitting before you. In this case that’s generally take a tackle (albeit a LEFT tackle - never heard ANYONE argue for positional superiority for a RIGHT tackle in the draft before) over a rb.

Most modern draftniks will even argue that RT over RB.

But a great organization understands that’s a baseline rule. If no player is of the caliber for the value then pivot to get the best talent.

But Mauigoa and Love are close in talent level at their respective positions. And factor in need and positional value, and RT>>>>RB right now.

PAETICULARLY when you aren’t ready to compete TODAY.

Even more reason NOT to draft a running back since they have limited shelf lives.

Who cares if brissett or pornstache get crunched this year?

Why not draft the RT who probably get them crushed because he's a rookie, and have the RT ready to roll for the rookie? You're making my argument for me.

When you’ve got your QB next year sign the best free agent or work the trade phones to get a PROVEN tackle to bookend with PJJ.

Or hair draft a RB later in the draft this year and take a back next year.

And oh yeah, you’ll have a good rb to help alleviate the load.

One that has never been a work horse back? In three seasons only three games of 20 or more carries?

 

[HairZach]

Most modern draftniks will even argue that RT over RB.

*Every draftnik

Anyone saying RB has more positional value than Right Tackle is using info 30 years out of date. The only positions with less value than running back are punter, kicker and long snapper. If we took a RT and he turned out to be a guard, he would still have way more positional value than a running back.

Anyone who wants a RB top 10 cannot complain about positional value of picks ever again.

 

[Krangodnzr]

*Every draftnik

Anyone saying RB has more positional value than Right Tackle is using info 30 years out of date. The only positions with less value than running back are punter, kicker and long snapper.

TE and ILB are in the same tier as RB

 

[some dumb guy]

Nope, didn't say that. Quit putting words in my mouth.

Most modern draftniks will even argue that RT over RB.

But Mauigoa and Love are close in talent level at their respective positions. And factor in need and positional value, and RT>>>>RB right now.

Even more reason NOT to draft a running back since they have limited shelf lives.

Why not draft the RT who probably get them crushed because he's a rookie, and have the RT ready to roll for the rookie? You're making my argument for me.

Or hair draft a RB later in the draft this year and take a back next year.

One that has never been a work horse back? In three seasons only three games of 20 or more carries?

Whew, I'm a little dizzy after all that...

 

[GimmedaBall]

Why would they restructure his contract if they were just going to let him go?

Salary cap space with the restructure. Cheaper to keep him on the roster than to just release him.

James Conner reworked contract details, cap hit

The Cardinals reduced the cap hit for James Conner's contract for 2026.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[GimmedaBall]

*Every draftnik

Anyone saying RB has more positional value than Right Tackle is using info 30 years out of date. The only positions with less value than running back are punter, kicker and long snapper. If we took a RT and he turned out to be a guard, he would still have way more positional value than a running back.

Anyone who wants a RB top 10 cannot complain about positional value of picks ever again.

If you start going back 30+ years, you'll find that RB was considered next to QB. Teams would get their QB and then go after a RB. In 1995, 5 RB went in the first round. (For fun, just call up old drafts on Profootball Reference and see how the landscape and positions have changed over the years.)

What the team needs will determine whether or not a given player is a luxury or the key piece to put them over the top. The Eagles went after Barkley and rode him to the SB. 49ers went after CM, ditto the Ravens and RB to pair with LJ.

MO continues to assemble a solid OL in the off-season with his signings. For a brief moment, we had a right-side that was healthy who paved the way for the Cards run game and a brief moment of success. Injuries took out the RT and RG along with the RB. OL is not a long-term project---you get the right vets for your offense and cross your finger to not have historical injury numbers. It can be a one-year fix. Going RT (who will move to RG) is the real luxury pick when you need a OL UNIT and not a single OL player. On the other hand, Love is a single player who can elevate all the O players around him.

What's wrong with getting the BPA? We can stand a little luxury.

 

[Stout]

*Every draftnik

Anyone saying RB has more positional value than Right Tackle is using info 30 years out of date. The only positions with less value than running back are punter, kicker and long snapper. If we took a RT and he turned out to be a guard, he would still have way more positional value than a running back.

Anyone who wants a RB top 10 cannot complain about positional value of picks ever again.

Levi Brown approves this message.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Salary cap space with the restructure. Cheaper to keep him on the roster than to just release him.

James Conner reworked contract details, cap hit

The Cardinals reduced the cap hit for James Conner's contract for 2026.

sports.yahoo.com

I dunno. I see it completely differently. I think the Cards might have gone to him and asked him to take a pay cut or he was going to get cut. He obliged.

Even the article you posted seems to support that idea.

 

[GimmedaBall]

I dunno. I see it completely differently. I think the Cards might have gone to him and asked him to take a pay cut or he was going to get cut. He obliged.

Even the article you posted seems to support that idea.

JC is still on the roster at a reduced cost. Maybe the Cards are waiting to see if he can come back from the ankle that put him out for the year? Afterall, this is the guy who beat cancer to continue his pro career.

Cards are hedging their bet on JC by getting him at a lower $$$, make some salary cap space, give him time to prove himself during camp, evaluate against who else is in the RB room. I'm also reading the tea leaves on this contract business that they are considering Love and if that doesn't work out, they would still have JC as a possible RB-by-committee.

I still think he's a cut before the roster is finalized.

 

[kerouac9]

MO continues to assemble a solid OL in the off-season with his signings

Lost me here

 

[Russ Smith]

“Good enough” to establish a credible running game. Allgeier should be a major contributor. I certainly don’t think adding Love, while a fine RB, would dramatically change the number of wins. Do you? The running game is good enough to allow play action to be reasonably effective. I also think this board gives up on players, especially injured ones, too quickly. I believe Benson can play in this league. Conner played well enough that Benson never got a real chance to establish himself. As soon as he got a legitimate opportunity, he gets a season ending injury. I also think that while Bissett is a quality backup, he’s not good enough to make this a playoff team. Sadly I think this is a 4-5 win team with or without Love.

I loved Benson but 2 straight years a season ending injury that wasn't supposed to be season ending. The first year you could write it off as them being careful but this year something is just off, either they lied about what the injury was, or the knee is worse than they thought. I read last week if the season started tomorrow it's still not clear Benson would be playing.

I hope he's back next year, hell I think with who we have they might try him as a KOR, but we just can't rely on him being healthy.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Lost me here

I'll place a call to Search-and-Rescue. What are your last coordinates?