Jalen Smith

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  1. sinsay

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    About The WE want him to part.

    What BIG man has put up 17 Pts 10 boards and a block

    His first 2 years in the NBA while being the clear cut 2nd option

    Most bigs in Ayton's case being the number 1 pick will have the keys to the team

    This is Books team he is option one and two for the most part

    Don't know many big men that young or that early in their careers that have or can do better

    Ayton is nearly a 20/10 player at 22 years old while not being the focus of the teams
    offense.

    He is already one of the league's better big men and he should be a college senior.

    I see comment after comment of what he is not

    A good if not great YOUNG player is what he is.



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  2. elindholm

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    But Ayton would be the #1 option if he were up to it. Doncic didn't need anyone's permission to take over as the #1 option in Dallas.
     
  3. Chaplin

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    You're right, but your Dallas comparison is flawed. Who else but Doncic could be the #1 option on that time when he was drafted? Porzingis is the clear #2, and he wasn't even on the team yet when Doncic was drafted.
     
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    He did not have a player capable of scoring 70 pts on his team either.

    Booker is on pace to break or compete with every Suns scoring record.

    Booker is one of the best scorers at his age the NBA has ever seen.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    You guys act like playing with Booker should somehow dampen Ayton’s scoring. Last I checked there have been multiple teams with multiple 20+ scorers on them. If anything playing with a prolific perimeter scorer should have enhanced Ayton’s scoring opportunities.

    this is such a silly argument. If Ayton had more fire in his belly he would be near unstoppable already. There’s a reason so many on this board are hoping Chris Paul gets the best out of him . . . it’s because he hasn’t done that himself yet.

    Just because fans recognize that he isn’t scratching his ceiling doesn’t mean we don’t what recognize what he does bring. But it also doesn’t mean we can’t be frustrated with his shortcomings.
     
  6. JCSunsfan

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    Someone has to pass it to the big fella in order for him to score. Watch how many touches he actually gets. He will get more with CP3 because he runs the pick and roll so much more often and effectively than anyone else we had last year.
     
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  7. CardsSunsDbacks

    CardsSunsDbacks Not So Skeptical

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    I think the argument being made isn't that he can't get shots because of Booker, but that he isn't being forced to put up a lot of shots because he has a legit #1 option ahead of him.

    Had he been drafted to a team that didn't have an elite scorer than the offense in general would likely be run through him much more by default.
     
  8. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    He hasn’t had the dog in him either season to have an offense run through him. Even if forced.
     
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    Do any NBA offenses run through the big man these days. You might be right but he has never had it run through him so I don’t think we know if he has the dog in him offensively or not. He has really stepped up on defense because that part is under his control.
     
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    Philly with Embiid to an extent. I ultimately think his lack of shots have been a combination of not having much offense run for him, but also being passive at times when he has had opportunities to make something happen.
     
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    Booker 17 FGA

    Kelly 14 FGA

    Ayton 14

    Ayton might have even been the 3rd option on some nights

    Ayton plays well for a YOUNG big man taking the 3rd most shots on a team

    Without Kelly, he might of AVG 22 Pts and 10 to 12 boards

    When you are sharing the shots its harder to be aggressive

    Booker CAN shoot when he wants or anytime he feels the need

    Oubre shot the ball whenever he wanted often not in the flow of the offense

    Ayton gets to shoot after that

    So now I guess he should call out his teammates and force the coach
    to call plays for him or demand a trade

    Then we can say he's not about winning he only wants money and stats

    I prefer he does what he's been doing which is getting better and playing his ROLE
     
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    wow indeed. Man... he got twigs there. Prob gonna take him a while to hold position with some of the true big boys.

    he also doesn’t have a body anything like KG. KG could never put that size up top on his frame.

    dude looks like Action Jackson up top, Erkel on the bottom. That’s a crazy physical juxtaposition.
     
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    Denver runs a lot of offense through Nikola Jokic.
     

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