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If only the Cardinals invested picks in the OL.Imagine having 5 minutes to throw a football. That may change once the quality he plays against increases.
If only the Cardinals invested picks in the OL.Imagine having 5 minutes to throw a football. That may change once the quality he plays against increases.
This is like the Tedford arguments of old... is Riley just that good at this? Baker is getting a lot of his production thanks to how insanely good Odell is.
Not saying our guy isn’t good, and it’s not like he didn’t come into college football wildly heralded along with Hurts, but these guys are just running roughshod in Riley’s scheme when they all had some degree of struggle and/or replacement elsewhere.
I’ve been really surprised by Hurts this year. He was always a great athlete but seemed like a stiff passer to me. You have to give a lot of credit to Riley but maybe he was held back a bit by some conservative coaching at Bama. Tua clearly has more freedom than Hurts did.
I posted this a month ago, wasn't me bumping it.Waiting for the next Kyler sucks it was the system innuendo thread
Tedford had a pretty decent history of developing college QBs into stat machines that didn't succeed in the NFL, but tended to get overdrafted. It had a lot to do with Aaron Rodgers plummeting into the 20s when he was drafted.Lol Jeff Tedford seriously.... what Tedford you want Tampa OC Jeff or CFL Jeff...Now Cal Jeff was good i think 10-3 was his best season? I personally think he was overrated meh
What is “this type of quarterback”?I am watching Dorian Thompson-Robinson in the UA-UCLA game. He looks so much like Kyler Murray that it’s frightening. Right now, the Cardinals defense is the main concern, but I am more concerned that this type of Quarterback is not going to translate to the NFL. Linebackers and safeties are just too fast
What is “this type of quarterback”?
UCLA doesn’t run the “Air-Raid”.“Air Raid” System QB, like the Florida QBs back in the day they were all stat beasts and heisman winners but none panned out in the NFL. Same could be said about the Nebraska QBs in the 90s as well. There’s lots of very successful QBs or systems that just didn’t work in the NFL.
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Not to mention, seems like it is working just fine for Mahomes and Mayfield.UCLA doesn’t run the “Air-Raid”.
This is like the Tedford arguments of old... is Riley just that good at this? Baker is getting a lot of his production thanks to how insanely good Odell is.
Not saying our guy isn’t good, and it’s not like he didn’t come into college football wildly heralded along with Hurts, but these guys are just running roughshod in Riley’s scheme when they all had some degree of struggle and/or replacement elsewhere.
1. Lincoln Riley is just a flat out better play caller than Kliff and we're seeing what damage he can do with QB who looks to run.Tedford had a pretty decent history of developing college QBs into stat machines that didn't succeed in the NFL, but tended to get overdrafted. It had a lot to do with Aaron Rodgers plummeting into the 20s when he was drafted.
One is considered one of the greatest HS QBs ever. The other played WR until his Sr. year of HS. They're not comparable at all.I am watching Dorian Thompson-Robinson in the UA-UCLA game. He looks so much like Kyler Murray that it’s frightening. Right now, the Cardinals defense is the main concern, but I am more concerned that this type of Quarterback is not going to translate to the NFL. Linebackers and safeties are just too fast
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One is considered one of the greatest HS QBs ever. The other played WR until his Sr. year of HS. They're not comparable at all.
You're comparing two players that all they have in common is that they both have running ability. There is no comparison as far as their ability as a passer.Mitch Mustaine was the greatest High School Prospect of the decade coming out of high school. Not that long ago. But this is on Michael Bidwill and Steve Keim. I hope that Kyler Murray proves us wrong. But I am not counting on it
Its fine to have doubts on Kyler. However, using a DTR reference is not it chief.Mitch Mustaine was the greatest High School Prospect of the decade coming out of high school. Not that long ago. But this is on Michael Bidwill and Steve Keim. I hope that Kyler Murray proves us wrong. But I am not counting on it
Not to mention, seems like it is working just fine for Mahomes and Mayfield.
Jalen will get Hurt if he decides to run against NFL defenders.1. Lincoln Riley is just a flat out better play caller than Kliff and we're seeing what damage he can do with QB who looks to run.
2. Jalen Hurts actually improved a year ago at Bama. Its just that Tua was a one of kind QB.
3. Jalen is proving just how much Kyler left yards on the field. He didn't run as much at OU and went down easily to avoid big hits. Jalen isn't worried about the hits so its allowed for bigger plays.
I don't think Jalen is nearly as refined as a passer as Kyler. He seems to always roll to his right when his 1st or 2nd read isn't open. However, he's improved a lot.
If there is a knock on Kyler in regards to Hurts its that what a taller/willing runner can do in that offense. Obviously being the #1 running threat keep the defense on its heels and leaves guys open. The major difference is Jalen being taller means that they're using the middle of the field more than when they had Kyler. Again Kyler could throw darts, but because of height issues they felt the safer option was to throw to outside. Jalen's vision really opens up the offense.
One is considered one of the greatest HS QBs ever. The other played WR until his Sr. year of HS. They're not comparable at all.