Is it time to sit KM?

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  1. TaylorSwift

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    I know what you mean but some of that seems coaching based and by design of the offense.

    From what I see, I guess you have to look at the all 22, it looks like there are a lot of curl and hitch routes that are designed for the qb to put the ball in a certain space and wr
    is supposed to be in that space.


    I could be wrong though
     
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    if you wait for the hitch route to fully develop before you throw, the WR is no longer open. He is throwing too late on most of his throws.
     
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    These posts are so ridiculous
     
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    Josh Rosen is available off the TB practice squad.


    ..........lololol. Not serious.


    Murray is learning, Kliff is learning and they are losing to QB's and Coaches that are NFL veterans. That was the risk in all this, so it is not surprising.

    Team is competitive and playing exciting games.

    Probably not making the playoffs or doing anything in them if we get in, but it sure has been entertaining and worth the money to watch.
     
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    Maybe we should have kept him out yesterday. Allow him to heal.
     
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    One thing I commented on in the game thread yesterday and I think this is more of a coaching thing. We completely changed who we are yesterday in that we were NOT running hurry up at all. We were routinely snapping the ball 5 seconds or less on the clock. I think Kliff wanted to run the ball and protect Kyler. So we played more 2 TE, Andy played 55% of the snaps but Maxx got 72% and Arnold 36% so almost half the snaps appeared to be with 2 TE's. We also played an extra OL fairly often on the short yardage plays.

    The game plan was get the lead, we did, and then shorten the game.

    The problem became not scoring at the end of the half and then losing the lead, we never got any momentum, and Kliff never really went back to speeding up. I'm used to seeing defense exhausted against us, really didn't see any of that.

    I think Kliff had a gameplan and stuck to it, even when some things needed to change, like the zone reads where clearly Kyler was not going to keep the ball so why run a zone read?
     
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    Head over to Youtube and do a search on 'Air Raid Offense Reading Grass'

    You'll be able to see what K2 is trying to accomplish and why the Cards are having difficulty putting the concepts into execution.

    Here's a high school coach introducing the 'Open Grass' concept (about 9 minutes):

    Why we READ GRASS in the Air Raid Offense - YouTube
     
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    Ok. If we score before the half from the dang 6 inch line. Kirk drops a pass and Drake scored. And then add the missed 45 basic FG. And we scored 27!!! The football Gods didn’t want us to win. Everything that could happen did. Kyler gets 1 more yard on 3rd down. Kliff calling the dumb timeout on 3rd down with 50 seconds left. Goto overtime!! The Patriots couldn’t move the ball. Simmons gets unlucky on the penalty at the end. We missed an easy fg. And we can’t score from the 6 inch line. And we lost on the last play. But anything normal happens. We score 27!! Let’s not act like we struggled to get 17.
     
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    And if we kick The fg before half. And make the one at the end. We win
     
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    If . . . IF . . . IF . . . IF . . . IF . . ., etc.

    All add up to 'L' No IF's, Ands, and Buts.
     
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    Unless he is truly injured, he is the best chance the Cards have to win. Depite several flaws in his game, KM's talent alone makes defenses have to play differently. Should we carry 3 QBs for this game? Absolutely. The Rams have a deep history of hurting our QBs and the team must account for that.
     
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    The shoulder is obviously giving him some problems but they’re not going to sit him unless it gets worse.
     
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    Lol wow overreacting much, KM is this franchise now period. Fitz is likely gone and KM is the face. If we had a good coach we are 2-3 wins better right now, this team has talent but an inexperienced HC that doesn’t know how to run an NFL team!
     
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    The situation under discussion included the need to evaluate KM's shoulder injury. If it is limiting his play and subject to further injury, do we sit him OR do we still start him and hope for the best---why is that a ridiculous question??
     
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    I doubt his shoulder is limiting his play to be as bad as our backups would be. thats the issue.
     

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