Houston @ Arizona State, Saturday, 10-25-2025: 5:00 PM

[Folster]

ASU didn't show up until the 4th quarter.

 

[AZJ]

I know it has nothing to do with it, but can we PLEASE stop with all the different jersey combos and whatnot. Maroon on the top. Gold on the bottom. Sparky on the helmet. Off the soapbox

 

[Raindog]

I think Dillingham is probably good at the "big idea" and inspirational kinds of stuff with running a college program. The attention to detail and game planning stuff, not so much. His coaching staff isn't really great, either. We need new assistants in several areas.

 

[Mainstreet]

An update on Sam Leavitt.

Kenny Dillingham says he re-tweaked an injury. This was my concern after he returned to the game.

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[ajcardfan]

Just got back from this game and it was one I was worried about. Yes, there were bad calls but Houston was just more physical and seemed to just want the game more. Right from the getgo. That's what happens when you have a little success teams mark you as a chance to earn respect and are gunning for you. Like we did to Tech last week, Houston did it to us this week.

Weigman was never a runner like that at A&M. I wasn't expecting him to get 100+ and lot of it was RB like runs. Physical.

 

[AZJ]

Just got back from this game and it was one I was worried about. Yes, there were bad calls but Houston was just more physical and seemed to just want the game more. Right from the getgo. That's what happens when you have a little success teams mark you as a chance to earn respect and are gunning for you. Like we did to Tech last week, Houston did it to us this week.

Weigman was never a runner like that at A&M. I wasn't expecting him to get 100+ and lot of it was RB like runs. Physical.

They basically ran the same play over and over again and we did nothing to stop it. QB draw and he just had to wait for the hole to open and we didn't adjust or anything.

 

[Mainstreet]

It sounds like Sam Leavitt has multiple injuries.

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[Mainstreet]

They basically ran the same play over and over again and we did nothing to stop it. QB draw and he just had to wait for the hole to open and we didn't adjust or anything.

The same with Utah. Houston probably ran the same type of plays for their quarterback. That sounds like a coaching issue.

Houston did have an excellent tight end. Metayer is a good one as well.

 

[ajcardfan]

The same with Utah. Houston probably ran the same type of plays for their quarterback. That sounds like a coaching issue.

Houston did have an excellent tight end. Metayer is a good one as well.

It's not like we didn't know it was coming or weren't trying. Houston was just smashing our guys in the face. They just physically overpowered us. As did Utah. This was a problem as far back as the NAU game.

 

[AZCB34]

Sims really isn’t good

He wasn’t good at Georgia Tech

He wasn’t good at Nebraska

He is mid backup quality

 

[AZ Native]

I’m not saying this season. If he continues to bring success to the program.

Yeah, I apologize, I was a little upset the way things were going. I was at the game and responded that way because Dilly was being out coached by the Houston coach.

 

[AZCB34]

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[ajcardfan]

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He is accurate. Dillingham got that huge contract but what happens when Leavitt is gone? Can we even make a bowl game? We will go to a bowl this year but this team wasn't close to a championship contender. Even for the Big 12.

He needs to hit the transfer portal harder and better than ever this off-season. Or we could go back to a losing season next year. I don't sense a lot of talent waiting in the wings among our backups. Hope I am wrong.

 

[ajcardfan]

Tyson will undoubtedly enter the draft. Leavitt could follow him when he looks at the rest of the tools he has on this offense. That is why Kenny better have a plan to snag some top talent in the portal for Sam. If not, it's reasonable for Sam to conclude another year here will make his stock drop even farther so he should enter now

Or, even worse, Sam transfers to what he thinks will be a better situation for him. This absolutely could happen. Like Miami for example.

 

[Mainstreet]

Per a report, ASU assistant head coach and apecial teams coordinator will take an immediate health-related leave of absence.

Additionally, he was not fired or asked to step down.

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[Mainstreet]

Lots of good things being said about Charlie Ragle.

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[TJ]

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He’s not wrong. Every 10 years or so is when either team is noteworthy. Between those years is a bunch of mediocrity and ineptitude. Neither school is going to ever be a perennial powerhouse in football because of ABOR constraints on contracts for coaches and coordinators, lack of consistent fan and booster support, and elite HS players leaving the state. ASU fans got upset with me because I’d mentioned that Dilly could leave ASU; and for the reasons that I’d mentioned and others, it is a real possibility. The ABOR won’t approve HC contracts beyond 5 years and coordinator contracts beyond 2, and those aren’t constraints that a Penn State or a LSU have.

 

[ajcardfan]

He’s not wrong. Every 10 years or so is when either team is noteworthy. Between those years is a bunch of mediocrity and ineptitude. Neither school is going to ever be a perennial powerhouse in football because of ABOR constraints on contracts for coaches and coordinators, lack of consistent fan and booster support, and elite HS players leaving the state. ASU fans got upset with me because I’d mentioned that Dilly could leave ASU; and for the reasons that I’d mentioned and others, it is a real possibility. The ABOR won’t approve HC contracts beyond 5 years and coordinator contracts beyond 2, and those aren’t constraints that a Penn State or a LSU have.

Yes, ASU and au have never done well keeping the top talent in the state here.

But an even bigger problem is the deficiency of elite high school talent in Arizona period. And Arizona has actually improved in this area over the last 10 to 15 years as far as like three star recruits. But top talent?

Just for comparison, Louisiana has a population of around 4.5 million. Arizona is roughly 7.5 million. If you look at the ratings for 2025 class, Louisiana has 14 4+ star players, AZ has 3, with no 5 stars. For the 2026 class, Louisiana has 10 4+, and Arizona has 2 4 star players. With the highest rated, Devin Fitzgerald, already committed to Notre Dame.

It's why coaches here have always had to recruit their asses off in Cali and Texas and that is very tough competition.

 

[Mainstreet]

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He is accurate. Dillingham got that huge contract but what happens when Leavitt is gone? Can we even make a bowl game? We will go to a bowl this year but this team wasn't close to a championship contender. Even for the Big 12.

He needs to hit the transfer portal harder and better than ever this off-season. Or we could go back to a losing season next year. I don't sense a lot of talent waiting in the wings among our backups. Hope I am wrong.

He’s not wrong. Every 10 years or so is when either team is noteworthy. Between those years is a bunch of mediocrity and ineptitude. Neither school is going to ever be a perennial powerhouse in football because of ABOR constraints on contracts for coaches and coordinators, lack of consistent fan and booster support, and elite HS players leaving the state. ASU fans got upset with me because I’d mentioned that Dilly could leave ASU; and for the reasons that I’d mentioned and others, it is a real possibility. The ABOR won’t approve HC contracts beyond 5 years and coordinator contracts beyond 2, and those aren’t constraints that a Penn State or a LSU have.

May I suggest, there is a University of Arizona thread on the forum for those who want to follow the thoughts of Michael Luke and the Arizona Wildcats.

In his description on X, he is an Arizona Wildcats host on YouTube (AZ 12 Podcast), a Wildcats podcast.

Minimally, there must be a better place for this discussion than an ASU game thread.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

May I suggest, there is a University of Arizona thread on the forum for those who want to follow the thoughts of Michael Luke and the Arizona Wildcats.

In his description on X, he is an Arizona Wildcats host on YouTube (AZ 12 Podcast), a Wildcats podcast.

Minimally, there must be a better place for this discussion than an ASU game thread.

He addressed both schools. Totally appropriate, and accurate, to post this here.