Fire Petzing now

[602 Native]

feel free to corrrect me here...but that fade is supposed to be thrown out of bounds...so if the WR cant drag it in then nobody can.
being behind the WR and low, totally defeats the functional processes of a fade.
unless we are thinking of different plays?

It wasn't a fade it was a back shoulder throw.
A fade is toward the pylon or OB over the shoulder.

Back shoulder is what K1 threw to MHJ.

 

[BritCard]

It wasn't a fade it was a back shoulder throw.
A fade is toward the pylon or OB over the shoulder.

Back shoulder is what K1 threw to MHJ.

It was 100% a fade. You can see Marv look over his shoulder for it then see it's falling short and have to turn and try adjust for it.

 

[phillycard]

7 TOTAL WR targets. I hate our offense so much.

The fact that Tet balled out in front of our faces should be a source of embarrassment. He was everything that Marv should have been yesterday.

 

[Buckybird]

In a short yardage goal line situation when a WR doesn't get separation (MHJ) a fade seems to be the only option.

Naw I disagree. Run someone along the back end line & run him across the back of the end zone, whether it’s in or out cut across. Watch how many TDs are scored from inside the 5 or 7 yard line from that play. Happens all the time & it’s almost unstoppable, particularly against zone coverage. So many of the good players use that concept.

 

[602 Native]

Naw I disagree. Run someone along the back end line & run him across the back of the end zone, whether it’s in or out cut across. Watch how many TDs are scored from inside the 5 or 7 yard line from that play. Happens all the time & it’s almost unstoppable, particularly against zone coverage. So many of the good players use that concept.

Thats not a concept in this offense involving MHJ. I have seen it ran with other players but not Marv.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

This presupposes that Kyler is not a major problem, too. When no systems work, you begin to question the common denominator.

Kyler was able to make quite a bit of chicken salad in K2s offense, when critics were still questioning the system in the NFL. The issue was it couldn't all be on Kyler to succeed...This new offense of Drew has gone the complete opposite. I think Kyler needs a blend of both styles, tbh.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't think Petzing is the problem, but I hope they fire him just so we can get someone else in, see the exact same issues, and FINALLY accept it's not the OC.

Well, everyone except the 5 Kyler homers.

You know that Petzing and Kyler can be exclusive things?

 

[Chopper0080]

It wasn't a fade it was a back shoulder throw.
A fade is toward the pylon or OB over the shoulder.

Back shoulder is what K1 threw to MHJ.

Disagree. Most back shoulder plays are designed with a vertical element. MHJs route was very much an angle from what I remember. No push vertically.

 

[Chopper0080]

The fact that Tet balled out in front of our faces should be a source of embarrassment. He was everything that Marv should have been yesterday.

I agree that MHJ should have gotten targeted 10 times.

 

[slanidrac16]

Yeah on one of those crossing route catches he actually broke a tackle and picked up another 7 or 8 yards of YAC.

More of those please!

Been screaming for this for a long time.

 

[slanidrac16]

When we struggle to run the ball we are like a car stuck in snow.

 

[602 Native]

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[602 Native]

Now DCs have figured out Special Ps run scheme

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[Redsz]

This feels like deja vu all over again from last year.

 

[602 Native]

It’s not the scheme though guys

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[BritCard]

You know that Petzing and Kyler can be exclusive things?

Sure, and I don't think Petzing is Ben Johnson or Kyle Shanahan. But also, maybe he is? Because he's clearly handcuffed by his QB and I believe the scheme and play calling is limited because of that.

 

[BritCard]

It’s not the scheme though guys

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Hard to get yards when your QB sucks.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

The time old debate of petzing vs Kyler is one I hope ends in both of them being replaced if we don’t make playoffs this year.

At least petzing used to field a good oline/run game. Now that we don’t have that even- yikes. I know JG is a big fan- but if we miss out on the playoffs yet again, I think even he will see the writing on the wall and that something needs to change

 

[DaHilg]

The time old debate of petzing vs Kyler is one I hope ends in both of them being replaced if we don’t make playoffs this year.

At least petzing used to field a good oline/run game. Now that we don’t have that even- yikes. I know JG is a big fan- but if we miss out on the playoffs yet again, I think even he will see the writing on the wall and that something needs to change

Crazy one would let a coaching problem fester so long. Offense literally looks exactly like last years but without a run game.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Crazy one would let a coaching problem fester so long. Offense literally looks exactly like last years but without a run game.

I don’t love it - but realistically who are you going to hire mid season to run your offense? Especially when you are 2-0 and still have playoff aspirations. If we change it up - it won’t be till the off season or this team is knocked out of the playoffs

 

[DaHilg]

I don’t love it - but realistically who are you going to hire mid season to run your offense? Especially when you are 2-0 and still have playoff aspirations. If we change it up - it won’t be till the off season or this team is knocked out of the playoffs

Unfortunately you are correct.. your hope would be fire Petz and there is someone on the team currently that has a diff scheme to hire as an interim.. then do a search on the offseason

 

[WeBlitz]

Hard to get yards when your QB sucks.

Odunze’s QB sucks, too. Everybody has noted that Nabers’ QB is washed. Still producing.

At a certain point, you have to look in the mirror when it comes to Marvin. He just might be the Trevor Lawrence of WRs.

 

[Stout]

Crazy one would let a coaching problem fester so long. Offense literally looks exactly like last years but without a run game.

Same could be said for QB problems. I wish we had gotten rid of both, but here we are.

 

[602 Native]

Odunze’s QB sucks, too. Everybody has noted that Nabers’ QB is washed. Still producing.

At a certain point, you have to look in the mirror when it comes to Marvin. He just might be the Trevor Lawrence of WRs.

I wish I knew where the problem was on this issue. Whatever it is obviously P Guy can’t figure it out running the 2 Condom Offense.

That is really the issue. Our big brain OC can’t figure out the problem no matter if you think it is a K1 issue, a MHJ issue, or a scheme issue. The OCs job is to utilize his assets and make them work. So far he hasn’t done that with our highly prized can’t miss WR.

 

[Cardiac]

Crazy one would let a coaching problem fester so long. Offense literally looks exactly like last years but without a run game.

IIRC the Cards offense was top ten in many metrics. Hardly a "fester" situation.