Draft Positioning

[DVontel]

I keep hearing this 2027 stuff. Guys I talk to tell me after Manning (who still is a long shot to come out) and Sayin, there are no sure things. Just a lot of maybes at this point. Who are you all excited about?

There is never a “sure-thing”.

Trevor Lawrence was the most “sure-thing” since Andrew Luck until he wasn’t.

 

[Stout]

The issue is that regardless of the scenario, you likely aren't getting your franchise QB in 2026.

Ah, well, I guess they should just ignore QB in 2026 because it's not going to be easy to spot the real QB talent--which is inevitably there. Right? Is this what you are saying?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Ah, well, I guess they should just ignore QB in 2026 because it's not going to be easy to spot the real QB talent--which is inevitably there. Right? Is this what you are saying?

Shouldn't we do the Bruce Arians' strategy and target/draft a QB every draft until you get one right?

 

[MadCardDisease]

There is never a “sure-thing”.

Trevor Lawrence was the most “sure-thing” since Andrew Luck until he wasn’t.

Yep there are no "sure-things" and we can all agree on that. But the problem with the 2026 QB class is there is "No-Thing" at the top of the position.

Where the Cardinals will most likely be drafting in the 1st, there probably won't be a QB worthy of taking there. I also don't think there is a QB worthy of moving up for.

 

[Chopper0080]

Ah, well, I guess they should just ignore QB in 2026 because it's not going to be easy to spot the real QB talent--which is inevitably there. Right? Is this what you are saying?

No. I am saying plan on having to acquire competition for Brissett, and using a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a QB but more focus should be on building up the overall infrastructure to being successful regardless.

Example. Sign Zach Wilson to compete with Brissett and then draft a guy like Carson Beck in round 2 or 3. But that means to need to spend some cash and/or picks on offensive linemen, RBs, and speed at WR along with the defense taking a HUGE step.
And none of this prohibits you from drafting another QB in 2027.

 

[DVontel]

Spencer Fano in the 1st

Caleb Banks in the 2nd

@Chopper0080

 

[Chopper0080]

Spencer Fano in the 1st

Caleb Banks in the 2nd

@Chopper0080

I think the draft seems to be running in this direction. I like Mauigoa a bit better than Fano but I think OT is a good match early.

In round 2, I also have my eye on Banks as well as R Mason Thomas, and Darrell Jackson Jr.

I think he will be gone, but Vega Ioane has to be considered in round 2 if he is on the board. I don't generally like to double dip, but I think he could be good.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Ah, well, I guess they should just ignore QB in 2026 because it's not going to be easy to spot the real QB talent--which is inevitably there. Right? Is this what you are saying?

Here is an Athletic article from last week:

NFL executives worried about lackluster 2026 QB draft class: ‘I don’t love any of them’

"No (college QB) is playing the position well enough to be, like, 'That dude can take over my franchise,'" an NFL team executive said.

www.nytimes.com

Stuck behind a paywall but here are the quotes from the Executives:

“Nobody is playing the position well enough to be like, ‘That dude can take over my franchise,’” said an NFL team executive who was granted anonymity so he could speak openly.

“I don’t love any of (the quarterbacks) right now,” a second executive said. “We’re trying to grasp onto somebody because there isn’t anybody, and it’s such a flavor of the week. Good luck right now.”

“Overall, we were hoping it was going to be better than last year,” a third executive said. “There was a hangover from such a good class two years ago. There were more projected (quarterbacks) coming into this year, but the expectations of the higher-end players never really materialized. Some of the younger guys are leaning toward going back because they haven’t played well and are making the NIL money.”

 

[Harry]

Here is an Athletic article from last week:

NFL executives worried about lackluster 2026 QB draft class: ‘I don’t love any of them’

"No (college QB) is playing the position well enough to be, like, 'That dude can take over my franchise,'" an NFL team executive said.

www.nytimes.com

Stuck behind a paywall but here are the quotes from the Executives:

What is says is true. This isn’t a great QB pool, but I assure you there will be some winners. It also doesn’t maintain 2027 will be better. That’s my point. It could be even worse.

 

[az jam]

I think the Cards will end up with a 5 & 12 record. They will get a top 10 pick but probably not a top 5 pick. Best qbs will be gone so probably makes sense to get top OT which is a big need. If they go all out in free agency and the draft on the offense this year especially the OL they could be decent team with Brissett as the starting qb. Getting a young qb to develop is critical but just not sure how they can accomplish that unless they get lucky with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

 

[oaken1]

Ah, well, I guess they should just ignore QB in 2026 because it's not going to be easy to spot the real QB talent--which is inevitably there. Right? Is this what you are saying?

right?? Fols around here putting stock in the opinions of the same fools that said Josh Allen was gonna be a bust because he couldnt hit the broad side of a barn he was standing in...
and now dude is in the MVP discussion every year.

Talent manifests in different ways and matures at different rates. But there are several guys in this draft who can be good NFL Quarterbacks. we just need to identify the guy who is right for our team, target him, acquire him, and then develop him properly.

so there is no super QB at the front of the draft...okay...Russ Wilson, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady...hell, even Patrick Mahomes...none of them came from the top of the draft yet they are among the best to play the game and all have Lombardi trophies.

obviously im not advocating waiting until the 7th round, or for an UDFA...just pointing out the glaringly obvious to anyone who actually pays attention...the individual and how he fits your team...along with how well you develop his skills...is far more important than his college success...and all these internet gurus are just parroting each other after looking at box scores.....
with a pro scouting department at our disposal I would hope we have a guy or two doing a deep dive on Quarterbacks outside the media darlings and big names.

 

[Harry]

I think the Cards will end up with a 5 & 12 record. They will get a top 10 pick but probably not a top 5 pick. Best qbs will be gone so probably makes sense to get top OT which is a big need. If they go all out in free agency and the draft on the offense this year especially the OL they could be decent team with Brissett as the starting qb. Getting a young qb to develop is critical but just not sure how they can accomplish that unless they get lucky with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Could be 7 or 8 as the schedule lies, even if they lose out.

 

[Proteus]

Legitimately don’t know where we would go with the first pick.

I think we’ll win two more games & that will take us out of the top 10 completely.

QB is the obvious need, but teams will have to want to trade back as well. It’s east just saying to trade up.

We might be out of Fano territory. OT class is eh to begin with.

EDGE class is meh. Same goes for iDL.

WR class is really good, but I can’t see us drafting one in the first round.



There’s a real possibility Jeremiyah Love could be our first pick. Only reason I lean not is because Monti has been drafting premium positions in the first.

A first round running back seems like a luxury for a team with as many issues as us.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Spencer Fano in the 1st

Caleb Banks in the 2nd

@Chopper0080

Please no more drafting injury prone DT's

 

[DVontel]

Please no more drafting injury prone DT's

Neither Robinson or Nolen were injury-prone when they were in college.

 

[Stout]

No. I am saying plan on having to acquire competition for Brissett, and using a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a QB but more focus should be on building up the overall infrastructure to being successful regardless.

Example. Sign Zach Wilson to compete with Brissett and then draft a guy like Carson Beck in round 2 or 3. But that means to need to spend some cash and/or picks on offensive linemen, RBs, and speed at WR along with the defense taking a HUGE step.
And none of this prohibits you from drafting another QB in 2027.

I oofed rather than liked because get those names off your GD keyboard! lol

Otherwise, thumbs up.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

True.

Another example of a failed team that continually drafts QBs but fails to give them support is the Bears who have burned through 20 QBs since 2008. Don't be like the Bears.

And yet, having just done it again - drafted a qb high - they sit at 8-3. Because they built their oline via trades and free agent signings. You can do both.

 

[Rohinaz]

At this point id be fine with a tackle in the first and a guard in the 2nd, one of the high ceiling QBs will still be there in the 3rd

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Most people are projecting a bunch of the younger QBs return to college football for 2026 instead of declaring for the Draft. Therefore there is a ton of hype currently around the 2027 class. If there is one thing that the Jets did right, it was to load up on 2027 first round picks. Now we all know that the Jets will probably screw up those picks but at least they were smart and loaded up on a draft that is predicted to be much deeper than 2026.

There was a ton of hype about this years college QB class too and it all turned out to be dust.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Only among people who thought that Arch Manning would come out early after 1 year of starting. Which people who know history, know that no Manning has entered the draft after one year as a starter and in fact all three Mannings spent 4 years in college. Even before the 2025 season started, his grandfather Archie said he would be shocked if Arch wasn't back at Texas in 2026.

This is just wrong. This was supposed to be a strong QB draft with allar, arch, klubnick, nussmeier and Leavitt.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

No. We’re bad but not top-3 bad. Unless McBride or other studs are injured or something.

Who are these “other studs” of which you speak?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Legitimately don’t know where we would go with the first pick.

I think we’ll win two more games & that will take us out of the top 10 completely.

QB is the obvious need, but teams will have to want to trade back as well. It’s east just saying to trade up.

We might be out of Fano territory. OT class is eh to begin with.

EDGE class is meh. Same goes for iDL.

WR class is really good, but I can’t see us drafting one in the first round.



There’s a real possibility Jeremiyah Love could be our first pick. Only reason I lean not is because Monti has been drafting premium positions in the first.

This just doesn’t feel like a very talented first round overall.

 

[slanidrac16]

And yet after the combine we will have 3-4 qb’s stock rise. It happens any year.
It’s going to take an aggressive approach to improve this team.
Use free agency to bolster the o-line.
If a Qb is available when we are on the clock(9 or 10?) do we pull the trigger?
Is there a Qb worth taking late in the first? Then trade up since we would have taken a o-lineman with our first.

A big key at rb is Benson. He was a guy we were counting on. If he shows up over these last 6 games that would be huge but we would still need another one even if Connor can come back.

Last but not least , coaching matters. A good position coach and scheme can raise a players performance exponentially. Something this staff and scheme doesn’t do.

Unfortunately this franchise moves like snails. We are scared to death to trade a draft pick for a quality player because of cost issues. We consistent work on the assumption that draft choices are the only way to build a roster. Bull$hit. It’s the most economical way.

I’m not sure who needs to go but changes need to be made especially in this coaching staff. It should start with Gannon but it won’t.

This offseason has to be all about offense. We need 2-3 o-linemen, 2 rb’s and a QBOTF. It can be done, but it will take brass balls with a bit of mortgaging the future. But alas, we won’t.

 

[slanidrac16]

Remember this. Patrick Mahomes had question marks and was drafted 10th.
Mitch Trubisky was taken 2nd.
Is there a Qb in the 2026 draft worthy of the 10th pick?
Probably. But it can’t be a guy that needs to be molded to fit a scheme. It has to be a guy that fits the scheme and a staff to bring him along.
So let’s forget the crap if you can’t draft 1-2- or 3 you can’t get a QBOTF.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Remember this. Patrick Mahomes had question marks and was drafted 10th.
Mitch Trubisky was taken 2nd.
Is there a Qb in the 2026 draft worthy of the 10th pick?
Probably. But it can’t be a guy that needs to be molded to fit a scheme. It has to be a guy that fits the scheme and a staff to bring him along.
So let’s forget the crap if you can’t draft 1-2- or 3 you can’t get a QBOTF.

True but this is the bears were talking about. Only Cleveland is ahead of them in the QB destroying game