Draft Positioning

[slanidrac16]

True but this is the bears were talking about. Only Cleveland is ahead of them in the QB destroying game

What happened since he left the Bears.
There a Qb in this draft that could be our QBOTF. I don’t believe we have to sell the ranch to move up to the 1st pick to get one.
Identify the qb traits that fit our style of offense.
Of course this staff has to do that first.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

And yet, having just done it again - drafted a qb high - they sit at 8-3. Because they built their oline via trades and free agent signings. You can do both.

Ben Johnson as the HC doesn't hurt either.

 

[Chopper0080]

I oofed rather than liked because get those names off your GD keyboard! lol

Otherwise, thumbs up.

I am curious why you "oof" both of those QBs. Neither are obviously perfect, but Wilson has the physical skill to compete with Brissett and Beck, while very flawed, has enough college experience to have a Bo Nix quick transition. If you don't want to "punt" 2026, those are your realistic options to improve at QB in 2026. Unless you have realistic better options.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is just wrong. This was supposed to be a strong QB draft with allar, arch, klubnick, nussmeier and Leavitt.

I mean, no one who has info thought Arch was coming out in 2026. Agree that most thought Allar, Klub, and Nuss would have better years. They just regressed instead.

 

[Chopper0080]

And yet after the combine we will have 3-4 qb’s stock rise. It happens any year.
It’s going to take an aggressive approach to improve this team.
Use free agency to bolster the o-line.
If a Qb is available when we are on the clock(9 or 10?) do we pull the trigger?
Is there a Qb worth taking late in the first? Then trade up since we would have taken a o-lineman with our first.

A big key at rb is Benson. He was a guy we were counting on. If he shows up over these last 6 games that would be huge but we would still need another one even if Connor can come back.

Last but not least , coaching matters. A good position coach and scheme can raise a players performance exponentially. Something this staff and scheme doesn’t do.

Unfortunately this franchise moves like snails. We are scared to death to trade a draft pick for a quality player because of cost issues. We consistent work on the assumption that draft choices are the only way to build a roster. Bull$hit. It’s the most economical way.

I’m not sure who needs to go but changes need to be made especially in this coaching staff. It should start with Gannon but it won’t.

This offseason has to be all about offense. We need 2-3 o-linemen, 2 rb’s and a QBOTF. It can be done, but it will take brass balls with a bit of mortgaging the future. But alas, we won’t.

I think getting a "QBOTF" will be more difficult than you are thinking it will be. We will see.

 

[slanidrac16]

I think getting a "QBOTF" will be more difficult than you are thinking it will be. We will see.

Let’s see how the ratings of these guys pan out.

 

[daves]

The Athletic's Nick Baumgartner posted a mock draft today (first 10 picks), and the Cardinals, picking 6th (!), got their choice at QB without trading up!

1. Tennessee Titans: Arvell Reese, edge, Ohio State
2. Las Vegas Raiders: Keldric Faulk, edge, Auburn
3. New York Jets: Caleb Downs, DB, Ohio State
4. New Orleans Saints: Reuben Bain Jr., edge, Miami
5. New York Giants: Spencer Fano, OT, Utah

6. Arizona Cardinals: Ty Simpson, QB, Alabama
It’s going to be another wild winter/spring cycle for prospective NFL quarterbacks. Simpson has been the best processor in the class, by a bit, but this is still just his first season as a starter. A long playoff run could go a long way here.

7. Washington Commanders: Carnell Tate, WR, Ohio State
8. Cleveland Browns: Fernando Mendoza, QB, Indiana
9. Minnesota Vikings: Jeremiyah Love, RB, Notre Dame
10. Miami Dolphins: Francis Mauigoa, OT, Miami

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

The Athletic's Nick Baumgartner posted a mock draft today (first 10 picks), and the Cardinals, picking 6th (!), got their choice at QB without trading up!

i still got us picking 5th

 

[Chopper0080]

The Athletic's Nick Baumgartner posted a mock draft today (first 10 picks), and the Cardinals, picking 6th (!), got their choice at QB without trading up!

That is some kinda mock draft. I don't know how anyone could tab the Jets passing on a QB for a S at 3.

 

[Stout]

I am curious why you "oof" both of those QBs. Neither are obviously perfect, but Wilson has the physical skill to compete with Brissett and Beck, while very flawed, has enough college experience to have a Bo Nix quick transition. If you don't want to "punt" 2026, those are your realistic options to improve at QB in 2026. Unless you have realistic better options.

Those ARE punting on 2026. If there's a guy we don't like on the board when we pick (no idea who that could be right now), or if we actually have the guts to trade up for our guy (Mendoza please), then do so.

 

[Harry]

There was a ton of hype about this years college QB class too and it all turned out to be dust.

Not dust, just developmental projects.

 

[football karma]

The Athletic's Nick Baumgartner posted a mock draft today (first 10 picks), and the Cardinals, picking 6th (!), got their choice at QB without trading up!

how do the Raiders, Saints or Jets pass on a QB?

 

[Harry]

how do the Raiders, Saints or Jets pass on a QB?

Possibly they don’t think they are worth a top pick.

 

[daves]

That is some kinda mock draft. I don't know how anyone could tab the Jets passing on a QB for a S at 3.

They'll already have a starting QB - Kyler Murray!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ben Johnson as the HC doesn't hurt either.

Absolutely. As with all things football all
The moving parts matter. But it stands to reason that Caleb has been a part of this success because they didn’t just give up on trying to draft a QB high.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That is some kinda mock draft. I don't know how anyone could tab the Jets passing on a QB for a S at 3.

From everything I’m reading that safety is considered the best player in the draft, no?

This is one of the least recognizable projected drafts I can ever remember.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not dust, just developmental projects.

Fair. But my point was no one was talking in developmental terms. Most seemingly thought this was going to be a star studded QB draft.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

Remember this. Patrick Mahomes had question marks and was drafted 10th.
Mitch Trubisky was taken 2nd.
Is there a Qb in the 2026 draft worthy of the 10th pick?
Probably. But it can’t be a guy that needs to be molded to fit a scheme. It has to be a guy that fits the scheme and a staff to bring him along.
So let’s forget the crap if you can’t draft 1-2- or 3 you can’t get a QBOTF.

No doubt Remember Joe Montana 3rd round of course Brady 6rd even Purdy was Late Warner wasnt drafted at all history has decent odds of mid late round picks being good and just as many top picks being Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf types and lets not gorget Jamarcus Russell Raiders surely never will

 

[Harry]

No doubt Remember Joe Montana 3rd round of course Brady 6rd even Purdy was Late Warner wasnt drafted at all history has decent odds of mid late round picks being good and just as many top picks being Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf types and lets not gorget Jamarcus Russell Raiders surely never will

how do the Raiders, Saints or Jets pass on a QB?

Saints finishing schedule includes Tennessee, Atlanta, Miami & NYJ. NYJ has ATL, Miami & NO. LV figures to stay ahead of the Cards based on SOS. Oddly the Saints may like Slough better than the 3 obvious QB choices. So if the Cards lose out and finish ahead of the Saints barring trades they could get a shot at one of the three. Plus with the Titans not likely to take a QB, they will likely auction off that top pick. In case you’re thinking Giants, they have DC, LV & the Vikes which means they are a long shot to stay top 5. If they do they would trade out also. The Cards can likely get one of the top 3 if they want one badly enough.

 

[Chopper0080]

Those ARE punting on 2026. If there's a guy we don't like on the board when we pick (no idea who that could be right now), or if we actually have the guts to trade up for our guy (Mendoza please), then do so.

Ok. I disagree. Using a top 90 pick on a QB, having a vet on the roster and then adding a former top 10 NFL QB who is still young is not, IMO, punting. That is doing what lots of teams in the NFL do when they are transitioning QBs in a bad year. Kinda like when you say people act like the only way to upgrade OT is using a 1st round pick in the draft and it isn't. The same thought applies here. There are other ways to get competency out of the QB position other than a 1st round pick or really good vet. It's really tough, but it is doable.

Sam Darnold was essentially what Zach Wilson is now when Minnesota signed him. Brock Purdy was a late round pick. Geno Smith was an old vet backup given a shot. For 2026, these are viable options but you have to explore all three and not put your eggs in one basket.

 

[Chopper0080]

From everything I’m reading that safety is considered the best player in the draft, no?

This is one of the least recognizable projected drafts I can ever remember.

He is a really good player but positional value matters. The Jets may be dumb enough to select a S top 3, but the idea that they would do so instead of the top QB available is projecting ineptitude.

 

[Stout]

Ok. I disagree. Using a top 90 pick on a QB, having a vet on the roster and then adding a former top 10 NFL QB who is still young is not, IMO, punting. That is doing what lots of teams in the NFL do when they are transitioning QBs in a bad year. Kinda like when you say people act like the only way to upgrade OT is using a 1st round pick in the draft and it isn't. The same thought applies here. There are other ways to get competency out of the QB position other than a 1st round pick or really good vet. It's really tough, but it is doable.

Sam Darnold was essentially what Zach Wilson is now when Minnesota signed him. Brock Purdy was a late round pick. Geno Smith was an old vet backup given a shot. For 2026, these are viable options but you have to explore all three and not put your eggs in one basket.

You're absolutely right, in theory. I simply don't want either of those players

 

[Chopper0080]

You're absolutely right, in theory. I simply don't want either of those players

I am hoping other options present themselves as well but I just don't see it right now.

 

[football karma]

From everything I’m reading that safety is considered the best player in the draft, no?

I dont know about this year, but Safety might start climbing on the "premium position" rankings

Offenses -- especially LAR and SEA have made their offensive living coming out in heavy personnel and if the defense matches, they pass

if they dont, they run.

its putting a premium on Safeties that can play the run AND cover equally well -- think Kyle Hamilton as the prototype

Im not saying take a Safety at 6th overall, but I think the NFL is going to start considering it

 

[schutd]

A 27 foot class certainly sounds deep.

Hella good drive-by.