Deandre Ayton discussion

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  1. BC867

    BC867 Long time Phoenician! Contributor

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    I figured you were referring to my post, so I un-ignored this time.

    I was referring to the season and our recent slide. Not just waiting for one exceptional game.

    And I'll stick with my claim because strength and consistency help make players' teams better.
    Not stats. How they do it is more important than what the individual numbers show.

    Ayton finger rolls when he should be making a statement by slamming. He avoids contact and
    doesn't draw his share of fouls/free throws. And he is a victim to steals, just as Andrew Lang
    used to be by holding the ball low for Guards to pluck away.

    Just looking at the stats doesn't reveal the necessary points of a Center's game.

    As NBA seasons wind down and into the playoffs, refs favor power players. Which is why the
    Suns have zero championships in their half century.

    Regardless of pretty stats, Ayton only adds to the "finesse" reputation. And if any of the
    coaches or players are trying to help him get to the next level, he is evidently not listening.
     
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    I call bull___________

    Ayton might not get the offensive stats many people want, but there is nothing empty about the stats he does get.
     
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    Jesus. He looked every bit as good as those stats in that game. Anyone thinking otherwise didn’t watch the game or knows nothing about basketball.
     
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    I think you haven’t watched his last three games. He’s not been finesse. And this is coming from ME!
     
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    You replied to a specific stat line from the game the other day, a game where he was a beast. You haven't been watching lately and its fine to admit that rather than repeat the same old diatribe you typically do.
     
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    Aytons been slamming it home. Right now he’s the reason we are competing.
     
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    Covert Rain Father smelt of elderberries!

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    This is the Ayton we have all wanted. Look, he needs to do this night in and night out but this is why he was drafted. If we get this out of him on most nights it could change everything.
     
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    He has slammed dunked more in the last three games than he has all year combined!
     
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    You used the word 'stats' twice in one sentence.

    As I posted, it is not about stats in evaluating Ayton's
    performance on the team.

    Has he been a difference maker? By and large, no.

    Has he been power in the post? No!

    Has he done flaky things? Yes.

    Except for a glimmer of hope, have we seen steady
    growth? No. Despite his occasional proclamations

    Until we do, he is disappointing Suns fans. As they
    say, it ain't rocket science. He doesn't have to be
    an All Star. Just solid in helping take us to the next
    level. Game after game.
     
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    Speak for yourself and not all Suns fans because Ayton has looked really good the last 4 games. Its like the last break something or someone got.through to him. If he continues to play like he has then ill be happy with that development and if you visited game chats you would see a good majority of Suns fans here will be also. The latest losses don't fall on his shoulders. He's doing his part now, finally, but its a team game.
     
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    I’d say 3 1/2 games, but otherwise agree. We have been in a position to win the last 3 1/2 games because of his stats. They were impactful, as was his defense. If BC hasn’t been watching these games he’s missed what he’s been wanting outta him.


    (Edited to redirect to BC)
     
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    As noted, Ayton has taken a huge step forward the last four games. He is playing good defense, rebounding and finishing plays with authority like many of us always hoped he would. His defense on Murray's shot (where he traveled) to force overtime was tremendous.
     
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    Joker gives kudos to Ayton.

     
  14. BC867

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    It's good to read these comments about Deandre.

    It would be great if he's turned the corner and
    could take some pressure off Book as a leader.
    By example!
     
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    BC, Ayton is never going to be one of these old players we use to see. Its a new game, hell look at Embrid he shoots outside and three pointers half the time. Ayton will be one of these new age centers and that's good for the Suns
     
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