Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by Mainstreet, Jan 16, 2021.
Its like he only applies himself on one end of the court at a time.
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking.
the entire Suns defense has disappeared. Our defensive rankings are now middle of the pack from #1 in pretty much everything
Man. 26-17-5 is not enough for you all?
This is where I am at. Defense has to be a team thing. Ayton did his part and more last night.
Last night Ayton joined Marion as the only Suns with 25+ points, 15+ rebounds, and 5 blocks in a game
Larry Nance would like to speak with you -
12/20/87 - 45/15/7
4/2/86 - 31/15/7
12/3/85 - 36/16/5
11/1/84 - 44/17/6 (I was at this one - it was a 3 OT game against Portland)
And so would Alvan Adams -
2/22/77 - 47/18/5 (also 12 assists)
Okay the article I read said in the last 30 years so that makes sense
I think a lot of people are unaware of just how good Larry Nance was here in Phoenix because he didn't look to score as much later on in Cleveland.
There are zero 47/18/12/5 games in the last 37 years to match Alvan Adams' game against Buffalo in 1977.
There are two 44/17/6 games (Patrick Ewing & Dwight Howard) in the last 37 years to match Larry Nance's game against Portland in 1984.
There are two 45/15/7 games (Dwight Howard & Joel Embiid) in the last 37 years to match Larry Nance's game against Sacramento in 1987.
Alvan Adams was really good too.
Not sure why the article didn't just include them and make it for Suns history. Thanks for the information though
Because it would not seem like as much of an accomplishment then.
We all cherry-pick our facts like that. Don't we?
There's a problem if you equate Alvan Adams stat line with Deandre Ayton's stat line. It's like inflation: Point don't necessarily equal points in a different era. Is Alvan Adams' statline more impressive considering the era he played in, or are Marion's and Ayton's? There's even a difference between Marion's NBA and Ayton's NBA.
Adjusted to 100.3 possessions per 48 minutes (the NBA 2020-21 average) using the Suns season pace for 1976-77 (106.6) and 2020-21 (97.1).
Adams - 47/18/12/5 = 44.2/16.9/11.2/4.7
Ayton - 26/17/5 = 26.9/17.6/5.1
The difference in eras makes a small difference, but certainly not enough when you're talking about a 47-point game.
Does that take into account whoever it was that was defending Adams?
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