Deandre Ayton discussion

Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by Mainstreet, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. Hoop Head

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    Its like he only applies himself on one end of the court at a time.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking.
     
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    the entire Suns defense has disappeared. Our defensive rankings are now middle of the pack from #1 in pretty much everything
     
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    Man. 26-17-5 is not enough for you all?
     
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    This is where I am at. Defense has to be a team thing. Ayton did his part and more last night.
     
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    Last night Ayton joined Marion as the only Suns with 25+ points, 15+ rebounds, and 5 blocks in a game
     
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    Larry Nance would like to speak with you -

    12/20/87 - 45/15/7
    4/2/86 - 31/15/7
    12/3/85 - 36/16/5
    11/1/84 - 44/17/6 (I was at this one - it was a 3 OT game against Portland)

    And so would Alvan Adams -

    2/22/77 - 47/18/5 (also 12 assists)
     
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    Okay the article I read said in the last 30 years so that makes sense
     
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    I think a lot of people are unaware of just how good Larry Nance was here in Phoenix because he didn't look to score as much later on in Cleveland.
     
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    There are zero 47/18/12/5 games in the last 37 years to match Alvan Adams' game against Buffalo in 1977.
    There are two 44/17/6 games (Patrick Ewing & Dwight Howard) in the last 37 years to match Larry Nance's game against Portland in 1984.
    There are two 45/15/7 games (Dwight Howard & Joel Embiid) in the last 37 years to match Larry Nance's game against Sacramento in 1987.

    Alvan Adams was really good too.
     
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    Not sure why the article didn't just include them and make it for Suns history. Thanks for the information though
     
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    Because it would not seem like as much of an accomplishment then.

    We all cherry-pick our facts like that. Don't we?
     
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    There's a problem if you equate Alvan Adams stat line with Deandre Ayton's stat line. It's like inflation: Point don't necessarily equal points in a different era. Is Alvan Adams' statline more impressive considering the era he played in, or are Marion's and Ayton's? There's even a difference between Marion's NBA and Ayton's NBA.
     
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    Adjusted to 100.3 possessions per 48 minutes (the NBA 2020-21 average) using the Suns season pace for 1976-77 (106.6) and 2020-21 (97.1).

    Adams - 47/18/12/5 = 44.2/16.9/11.2/4.7
    Ayton - 26/17/5 = 26.9/17.6/5.1

    The difference in eras makes a small difference, but certainly not enough when you're talking about a 47-point game.
     
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    Does that take into account whoever it was that was defending Adams?
     

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