Dbacks considering trading Ketel Marte

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No reason to do so. You aren't going to get back value for him that will equal what is lost. 90% of Marte is better than 100% of any alternative.
 
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Wouldn't be surprised. Historically, D-Backs don't keep their vets around too long as they age (Goldy, Upton, etc.). They like to dump and then grab other teams' veterans (Greinke, Burnes, etc.) instead of extending their own.
 
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I respect Ketel’s incredible talent immensely. And the fact that he’s remained committed to this franchise over the years makes me like him even more. But, in ‘23 he played in 150 games. In ‘24 he played in 136 and last season he played in 126…
He’s “only” 32, but it seems it’s an old 32…
And let’s not forget how he now feels totally empowered to tell the team when he is willing to play and when he’s not…

I dunno… I think if Hazen can grab promising young talent, I can find the way to be ok with it.
 
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LOL… you guys just won’t be satisfied until Torey is no longer wearing a Dbacks uniform. :rolleyes:
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Or, we won't be satisfied until the organization actually puts a serious priority on winning, long-term. Torey has proven he can manage less to be more....and manage more to be less. That doesn't translate to long-term success...just long-term middling along and occasionally achieving short-term success.
 
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Said six weeks ago in my offseason breakdown

I assume they trade Marte for a 3 or 4 to 1 deal
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There is just no reasonable way to fill the holes in pitching and cut salary.

Especially when you are cutting Curtiss who is making 1.3 million and had a sub 1 WHIP. That tells me they are going to be looking at league minimum guys in the bullpen and maybe spend a closer.
 
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Or, we won't be satisfied until the organization actually puts a serious priority on winning, long-term. Torey has proven he can manage less to be more....and manage more to be less. That doesn't translate to long-term success...just long-term middling along and occasionally achieving short-term success.
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Ehhh... long-term winning... Like the Dodgers, or the Yankees? I mean, not sure what you're expectation is regarding what this team can legit commit to in terms of team payroll, but I think it's quite self-evident the Dbacks will never, ever sniff the salary levels of those types of franchises. Teams like the Mets, Cubs, Padres, Giants, Red Sox... routinely spend well above the Dbacks and wouldn't be considered consistent winners.

It's hard for me to take you guys seriously after this season, when ownership did commit to a payroll that pushed the upper limits in the history of this franchise... yet, experienced an historic level of injuries. Again, we aren't the Dodgers who have the financial backing to create level of depth that can withstand injuries to key players.

Still, I'm a realist... and I can easily say that if this team craps the bed next season, Torey will be removed.
Will that equate to a level of winning above & beyond that which Torey produced? Time will tell... however, I'm confident in suggesting unless ownership drastically increases team payroll, I wouldn't expect much, if any in the way of more W's.

And FWIW, the team did commit, long-term to players such as:

- Perdomo: 4 more years
- Marte: 5 more years
- Carroll: 5 more years
- E-Rod: 3 more years
- Pfaadt: 6 more years

We'll see what they do with Ryne Nelson and maybe Moreno...I'd be surprised if they don't do a deal with Beeks. Same with McCann...
 
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Ehhh... long-term winning... Like the Dodgers, or the Yankees? I mean, not sure what you're expectation is regarding what this team can legit commit to in terms of team payroll, but I think it's quite self-evident the Dbacks will never, ever sniff the salary levels of those types of franchises. Teams like the Mets, Cubs, Padres, Giants, Red Sox... routinely spend well above the Dbacks and wouldn't be considered consistent winners.

It's hard for me to take you guys seriously after this season, when ownership did commit to a payroll that pushed the upper limits in the history of this franchise... yet, experienced an historic level of injuries. Again, we aren't the Dodgers who have the financial backing to create level of depth that can withstand injuries to key players.

Still, I'm a realist... and I can easily say that if this team craps the bed next season, Torey will be removed.
Will that equate to a level of winning above & beyond that which Torey produced? Time will tell... however, I'm confident in suggesting unless ownership drastically increases team payroll, I wouldn't expect much, if any in the way of more W's.

And FWIW, the team did commit, long-term to players such as:

- Perdomo: 4 more years
- Marte: 5 more years
- Carroll: 5 more years
- E-Rod: 3 more years
- Pfaadt: 6 more years

We'll see what they do with Ryne Nelson and maybe Moreno...I'd be surprised if they don't do a deal with Beeks. Same with McCann...
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I'd be curious to see how many of these contract extensions actually finish out in a D-Backs uniform. Not having the same financial resources as other teams, they would be more likely to trade to acquire talent at other positions given our farm isn't the greatest.
 
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I'd be curious to see how many of these contract extensions actually finish out in a D-Backs uniform. Not having the same financial resources as other teams, they would be more likely to trade to acquire talent at other positions given our farm isn't the greatest.
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Very valid concern... though, to be fair, most MLB teams are prone to unload a player on a long-term deal prior to the full conclusion of a contract, and/or choose to go the Goldy way and not re-sign the player.
I really don't see the Dbacks that much differently than most other MLB teams in this way.
 
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