Coaching

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Coaching has gotten a lot of praise this year, and deservedly so.

I think they can take some criticism after this game.

-Cro got burned the entire game, while PP was largely avoided. At some point, you have to make the decision to put PP on DT. I think Bowles missed on that one. (Alternative - give Cro safety help over the top. Never happened either.)

-Tony Jefferson can not cover big TE's in man coverage. We know it, the opposing teams know it, but our coaching staff seemingly refuses to see it. Make a change.

-Offensive play calling. Stanton drove the ball well on the opening drive and the second drive. They used the same plays we have been used to seeing. Suddenly, on the 3rd drive, we got all cutsie with an end around to Ginn that went nowhere, along with some failed short plays. After that, we never established our style of pushing the ball down field again. We stuck with dink and dunk plays that went nowhere.

All in all, I think we will all take 3-1 at this point. The injuries are beyond concerning, but there's nothing we can do about that. Hope Palmer can return soon.

Go Cards!

 

[unseenaz]

This has been the theme so far. Unwavering belief in the system. Sometimes the man coverage drives me nuts

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I really don't understand not putting PP on DT.

 

[Finito]

This was a 4 point game in the fourth quarter.

You have to remember it's hard to have guys over the top r when you need to bring them up to blitz because you can't get pressure up front so it's kind of like pick your poison.

The coaches didn't drop those balls on 3rd down.

Your down to your third string QB on the road against one of the five best teams in the league. CC, Niklas,Peterson all went out I don't know what you could of done to make things turn out different

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I was sad because I watched Minter at the end and he is slow and not starting quality - so the big safety we could have on a big TE (Buchanon) has to play ILB because we don't have an ILB for passing downs.

I am betting we have Bishop in the lineup alongside Foote by week 8 (my only prediction this year, which means Bishop will get released or infected with Ebola)

 

[Darkside]

(my only prediction this year, which means Bishop will get released or infected with Ebola)

Lol nice

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[Darkside]

I don't fault the coaching for the loss but one thing I'm starting to hate is keeping Cro on one side of the field. It limits PP's effectiveness. It limits his athleticism by limiting him to half a field and doesn't allow him to roam the entire field and make plays. Very little for him to jump or cheat or spy on. Even if Cro can only play one side I think what you lose with PP is more than what you gain with Cro having his favorite spot.

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[MrYeahBut]

Darkside, its a small thing bro, but can you get rid of that sent from tapatalk tag line on your posts. I look to the last line of your posts thinking I'm going to read something witty and all that's there is that stupid thing.

 

[DoTheDew]

I don't know who you think the coaching staff should put on big TEs. I'm looking for this player on our roster that can cover them and am having trouble finding them.

 

[Stout]

The offensive coaching staff ended up getting Stanton killed by refusing to even attempt running the ball to open the second half. Just let Denver come balls-to-the-wall after him.

 

[Shaggy]

The offensive coaching staff ended up getting Stanton killed by refusing to even attempt running the ball to open the second half. Just let Denver come balls-to-the-wall after him.

That's what I didn't get. Why did they go away from the run? I know it wasn't getting them huge yardage, but throw Taylor in there to pound it in the middle and give Ellington the swings.

 

[Darkside]

Darkside, its a small thing bro, but can you get rid of that sent from tapatalk tag line on your posts. I look to the last line of your posts thinking I'm going to read something witty and all that's there is that stupid thing.

I had to look for it but done! [emoji2]

 

[MrYeahBut]

I had to look for it but done! [emoji2]

Thanks, I'll still look for something witty in your posts... I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

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[Darkside]

Thanks, I'll still look for something witty in your posts... I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

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At least you won't have to look as far. [emoji6]

 

[Russ Smith]

I thought Arians totally blew the end of the first half by throwing so much he gave Manning the ball back, twice. We were really lucky Denver didn't score on both those drives.

When you know the passing game isn't going great, and Denver gets the ball to start the 2nd half, you try and play some clock, at worst you force them to use TO's to stop the clock after run plays.

 

[don7031]

You can't coach what you don't have. There are major personnel deficiencies.

What linemen are they supposed to run behind? They haven't been able run between the tackles at any point this season. The Cardinals have one good lineman (Veldheer) and he's a pass blocking specialist. The rest of the line has the team down to the third string quarterback by the fourth game of the season.

 

[Russ Smith]

You can't coach what you don't have. There are major personnel deficiencies.

What linemen are they supposed to run behind? They haven't been able run between the tackles at any point this season. The Cardinals have one good lineman (Veldheer) and he's a pass blocking specialist. The rest of the line has the team down to the third string quarterback by the fourth game of the season.

One of the reasons we can't run is that we have one TE on the field quite a bit and at times none.

Another reason is the coach did IMO a poor job of selecting his RB's. Nobody is saying Stepfan Taylor is the 2nd coming of Jim Brown but for pete's sake how many times does someone else have to get stopped short on a short yardage play before Arians figures out his best short yardage RB is Taylor?

Taylor has been the primary back on exactly one drive this year, and we scored a TD where he got about 40% of the yards. Arians has now picked Hughes, Dwyer, and Parmalee ahead of him, that's a coaching decision not an OL problem.

Nobody is saying we should run the ball every down but when you get the ball 2:30 before halftime at the 33 yard line down 1 point and end up punting 42 seconds later that's bad coaching. We threw on first down, ran on 2nd down(Taylor 6 yards) and then surprise, this thing called the 2 minute warning stopped the clock. I'd like to think the coaches were aware of that new rule about stopping the clock at 2 minutes and would call a run play on first down so they have 2 downs after the 2 minute warning.

As it happened it didn't matter because Denver scored in one play, we get the ball back with 1:37, 3 plays 44 seconds later we punt again, fortunately Denver doesn't get into FG range and we go to the half.

Anyway you slice it that was terrible clock management.

 

[kerouac9]

I don't fault the coaching for the loss but one thing I'm starting to hate is keeping Cro on one side of the field. It limits PP's effectiveness. It limits his athleticism by limiting him to half a field and doesn't allow him to roam the entire field and make plays. Very little for him to jump or cheat or spy on. Even if Cro can only play one side I think what you lose with PP is more than what you gain with Cro having his favorite spot.

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Hmm... That's an interesting wrinkle that I haven't considered. Maybe Cro is more effective/comfortable playing one side of the field, and it's not The System or Peterson. If that's the case, then that's a problem and we should consider sitting Cromartie down and putting Powers out there on the other side of the field.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

I don't know who you think the coaching staff should put on big TEs. I'm looking for this player on our roster that can cover them and am having trouble finding them.

Cromartie.

Bethel is fine in coverage on a WR2. Or you could slide Powers to the WR2 and put badger in the slot.

 

[kerouac9]

While we have a coaching thread already in place, do we want to talk about how unprepared this offense was to operate in noise? We burned three timeouts seemingly halfway through the first quarter?

I think it was football outsiders who mentioned that the Cards were fortunate that Sanders ran into the end zone on that called back TD. If he'd had the presence of mind to just step out of bounds on the one, there would've been no recourse for the Cards to challenge the play.

 

[Catfish]

There was not a lot of 'blame' to put out there for yesterday's performances. I laid 'blame' on Ginn for his total lack of effort; on Fitz for his underachieving, (for the past 20 games, not just for yesterday).

There was no blame to assign on our defensive secondary. They were alone on islands against a very hot HOF quarterback and some very big, fast, talented receivers. You can see from Cromartie's post game interview that he was much harder on himself than any of us could have been. I don't know of many corner backs who could played #88 for Denver any better than 'Cro' did yesterday. While he had similar speed, he was obviously outmanned when it came to size and strength. Add in that he knew where he was going to go and 'Cro' didn't, and the outcome was predictable. I don't even blame the coaches because they had us in the game, (down only by 4), going into the 4th quarter.

Really, the only two that I saw who failed to play up to their capabilities were Fitz and Ginn. Neither played up to the standard that they should have. Yes, there were drops all around, but Fitz is in a category that is special, both in ability and in compensation. He did not respond that way. Ginn was simply pathetic. 'Zas' re-injured his hammy, and still did pretty well. It's tough for a man to punt with a pulled hammy, but he tried his best. So did Cromartie. That is all anyone could ask.

 

[MrYeahBut]

There was not a lot of 'blame' to put out there for yesterday's performances. I laid 'blame' on Ginn for his total lack of effort; on Fitz for his underachieving, (for the past 20 games, not just for yesterday)..

Really?????

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[schutd]

I thought Arians totally blew the end of the first half by throwing so much he gave Manning the ball back, twice. We were really lucky Denver didn't score on both those drives.

When you know the passing game isn't going great, and Denver gets the ball to start the 2nd half, you try and play some clock, at worst you force them to use TO's to stop the clock after run plays.

My buddy and I were talking about this. I tend to agree with you, Russ. But my overly empathetic side says, Thats Bruce Arians. he sees time on the clock, and running the ball aint going to put points on the board, so he goes for it. The man just flat goes for it always. Consequences be damned. I like that as well. SOmetimes it would be OK to tuck tail and run though, right?