Chandler Jones to the Raiders

[Shane]

What about the quote is BS? You think dropping Jones into coverage for example is the best use of his talents?

He didn’t go to the raiders for his use of talent he went for the money not even a question. And last I checked that’s actually the job of a 3-4 OLBer…. They need to drop in coverage at times.

 

[football karma]

Chandler is a good player and he will be missed

i think he puts up serious numbers with the Raiders -- he arguably becomes the #2 guy in the pass rush with Max Crosby there. He could feast on protection schemes that dont slide to him

 

[AZ Native]

I know it is water under the bridge now but does anyone know what salary he was asking to stat a cardinal?

 

[Shane]

I know it is water under the bridge now but does anyone know what salary he was asking to stat a cardinal?

Well after his 5 sack performance last year we had plenty of folks that wanted to throw him 20 million a year lol

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He didn’t go to the raiders for his use of talent he went for the money not even a question. And last I checked that’s actually the job of a 3-4 OLBer…. They need to drop in coverage at times.

Of course he went for money, why wouldn't he? Why can't both statements be true?

1. Went for money = True
2. Not utilized for his strengths = True

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

What about the quote is BS? You think dropping Jones into coverage for example is the best use of his talents?

No, but it’s not like other DCs won’t do that on occasion, they all will. It’s about money and the “respect” players attach to the money.

 

[Dayman]

I believe CJ became the scapegoat for a flawed defense last year. The guy isn't a perfect player, but you would think he is a Travis Laboy level player from some of these comments. He will be missed on this defense more than a lot of people think he will.

 

[Shane]

I believe CJ became the scapegoat for a flawed defense last year. The guy isn't a perfect player, but you would think he is a Travis Laboy level player from some of these comments. He will be missed on this defense more than a lot of people think he will.

Will he be missed sure? But better to get rid of a little too early than far to late. He is clear as day slowing down and on the back hill slide.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Of course he went for money, why wouldn't he? Why can't both statements be true?

1. Went for money = True
2. Not utilized for his strengths = True

If that were a real reason he wouldn’t have been stumping for an extension, he’s have been hell bent on getting out and that was never the case.

 

[Shane]

If that were a real reason he wouldn’t have been stumping for an extension, he’s have been hell bent on getting out and that was never the case.

Yep exactly

 

[Chopper0080]

I think the quote is complete BS

I think that saying that it is not about money at all is BS. It is always about money.

That said, some systems give special players the freedom to be special. I go back to Troy Polamalu with that. Troy has said that he would not have been the player he was if he didn't have a DC who let him be special. Vance's scheme does not give the players that freedom. The argument if that is better or worse is a different convo.

If the Cardinals had offered 17, I don't believe Jones would have left.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If that were a real reason he wouldn’t have been stumping for an extension, he’s have been hell bent on getting out and that was never the case.

Every single person has complaints about their job and some still want to keep working there. Everything isn't always sunshine and rainbows just because you didn't sign a contract, or want an extension, or even ask for a trade...

 

[AZ Native]

I think that saying that it is not about money at all is BS. It is always about money.

That said, some systems give special players the freedom to be special. I go back to Troy Polamalu with that. Troy has said that he would not have been the player he was if he didn't have a DC who let him be special. Vance's scheme does not give the players that freedom. The argument if that is better or worse is a different convo.

If the Cardinals had offered 17, I don't believe Jones would have left.

And do you think it would have been a good move for the Cardinals?

 

[Chopper0080]

And do you think it would have been a good move for the Cardinals?

I think we would be a better team and I don't really care about the money. The same argument is made about Zach Ertz and his three year deal. I also like the idea of have an edge rusher not named Dimukeje or Gardeck signed for 2023.

 

[TheCardFan]

The AFC West is turning into the NFC West.

 

[Chopper0080]

For context, we have 18 players under contract for 2023 and that is counting David Wells and Nolan Cooney. Our roster is pretty ****** moving forward. A lot of RBs, Ss and ILBs. Not a lot of OL, EDGE, WRs, CBs and DL.

 

[BritCard]

For context, we have 18 players under contract for 2023 and that is counting David Wells and Nolan Cooney. Our roster is pretty ****** moving forward. A lot of RBs, Ss and ILBs. Not a lot of OL, EDGE, WRs, CBs and DL.

Yes but surely plenty of cap space too.

I expect Keim will get the current holes sorted then work on extensions.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

For context, we have 18 players under contract for 2023 and that is counting David Wells and Nolan Cooney. Our roster is pretty ****** moving forward. A lot of RBs, Ss and ILBs. Not a lot of OL, EDGE, WRs, CBs and DL.

You know, the arguably most important pieces...

 

[BritCard]

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[Ronin]

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[dreamcastrocks]

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I guess it wasn't all about the money then...

 

[Shane]

I guess it wasn't all about the money then...

You crack me up… Yeah because he’s going to get up in his press conference and say “I’m here because it’s all about the money” smh

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You crack me up… Yeah because he’s going to get up in his press conference and say “I’m here because it’s all about the money” smh

Same. How can you say with certainty that all about the money in one post/player, and then say the player should think about their families when discussing a different player? Something is amiss.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I guess it wasn't all about the money then...

Lol. Because he says something twice doesn’t make it true. If you want to believe the fairytales that players tell the press by all means that’s your prerogative.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Lol. Because he says something twice doesn’t make it true. If you want to believe the fairytales that players tell the press by all means that’s your prerogative.

If you don't think that money isn't always a factor when deciding on an employer, that's your prerogative.
If you don't think that Chandler Jones being next to Maxx Crosby isn't a factor, that's your prerogative.