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There's ETFs that offer the rates listed here and you don't have to lock your money up. Even ones that deal only in US Treasuries. Is there a reason to avoid bond ETFs? I am just asking to see what advantages that CDs have over ETFs potentially?
 

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There's ETFs that offer the rates listed here and you don't have to lock your money up. Even ones that deal only in US Treasuries. Is there a reason to avoid bond ETFs? I am just asking to see what advantages that CDs have over ETFs potentially?
The rates are locked is the only advantage. I always use my money market fund over CDs. Rates are the same or slightly higher and it's fully liquid. They are subject to rate changes too but if you're looking at a 3 or 6 month CD the rate's not going to change much. Right now it might work in your favor too since I get the feeling that the Fed might raise a quarter point.
 

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i still can't believe I just have like 24K in a CD that I'll never be able to cash because Wells Fargo says they have no record of it after they bought my bank years ago. And despite the fact that I LITERALLY still have the CD document.

The way the rules are stacked in favor of banks, corporations and anyone with enough money to say FU in this country is just pathetic.
 

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i still can't believe I just have like 24K in a CD that I'll never be able to cash because Wells Fargo says they have no record of it after they bought my bank years ago. And despite the fact that I LITERALLY still have the CD document.

The way the rules are stacked in favor of banks, corporations and anyone with enough money to say FU in this country is just pathetic.
Sounds like some of the rule stacking that I was fighting over with Chase. I ended up closing all of my accounts with them over it. Still trying to figure out what I want to do long term for a bank.
 

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Sounds like some of the rule stacking that I was fighting over with Chase. I ended up closing all of my accounts with them over it. Still trying to figure out what I want to do long term for a bank.
I opened a brokerage account with Fidelity based on a lot of videos I watched on Youtube. It's easy to have all the financial abilities in one place. Not sure Fidelity is the best. Lots of people like Schwab. At least on Youtube.
 

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I opened a brokerage account with Fidelity based on a lot of videos I watched on Youtube. It's easy to have all the financial abilities in one place. Not sure Fidelity is the best. Lots of people like Schwab. At least on Youtube.
Did you get one of the Fidelity Cash Management accounts (CMA)? I was looking at them and AmEx's checking accounts. If so, any issues with ATM use with it? Having ATM access and being able to pay bills from it are my main concern. I also have an account at Wells so I'm not concerned with not having branches.

it seemed like it could simplify what I've been doing. For a while now I've had my checks being deposited to my Vanguard money market fund and then transferring money from it to my old Chase account when I needed to pay bills. It looks like I could cut out having to do the transfers with a CMA.
 

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Did you get one of the Fidelity Cash Management accounts (CMA)? I was looking at them and AmEx's checking accounts. If so, any issues with ATM use with it? Having ATM access and being able to pay bills from it are my main concern. I also have an account at Wells so I'm not concerned with not having branches.

it seemed like it could simplify what I've been doing. For a while now I've had my checks being deposited to my Vanguard money market fund and then transferring money from it to my old Chase account when I needed to pay bills. It looks like I could cut out having to do the transfers with a CMA.
That's the account I got from watching Youtube channels. They have a bill pay application even. I have not used it because I have been paying everything from the credit card, which pays cash to your cash account or brokerage account, whichever you pick. So you get cash rewards. They have ATMs here in Phoenix, but they also reimburse your ATM fees use if you use other ATMs. I have used other ATMs and had them reimburse the fees almost immediately.
 

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That's the account I got from watching Youtube channels. They have a bill pay application even. I have not used it because I have been paying everything from the credit card, which pays cash to your cash account or brokerage account, whichever you pick. So you get cash rewards. They have ATMs here in Phoenix, but they also reimburse your ATM fees use if you use other ATMs. I have used other ATMs and had them reimburse the fees almost immediately.
Yeah, when I say "pay bills" I mainly mean pay my credit card. I have everything that I can autopay to it and then pay it off each month. I think my APS bill is the only thing that doesn't hit it. It's great for only having to worry about making a couple payments and credit score. I'm over 850 now with it.
 

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Yeah, when I say "pay bills" I mainly mean pay my credit card. I have everything that I can autopay to it and then pay it off each month. I think my APS bill is the only thing that doesn't hit it. It's great for only having to worry about making a couple payments and credit score. I'm over 850 now with it.
I am in the 800s, and I get enough in cash back to make it worthwhile. The videos are mostly how you can use the credit cards returns to boost your investments. One caveat, if you are trading a lot of stocks their platform is pretty basic. I get the feeling the Schwab Think or Swim platform is better.
 
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I opened a brokerage account with Fidelity based on a lot of videos I watched on Youtube. It's easy to have all the financial abilities in one place. Not sure Fidelity is the best. Lots of people like Schwab. At least on Youtube.

Fidely manages my IRA's now and I'm quite happy with them.
 
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There's ETFs that offer the rates listed here and you don't have to lock your money up. Even ones that deal only in US Treasuries. Is there a reason to avoid bond ETFs? I am just asking to see what advantages that CDs have over ETFs potentially?

The advantage of the Etrade one is it's liquid as DMC said plus you get 250 dollar bonus so the 4% is more like 7. A friend of mine got in it, she accidentally completed it without using the coupon code so she called Etrade and after some transferring around they agreed to honor it anyways so she'll get the 4% for 6 months plus the 250 dollars after 45 days.

I need to move money around to do it and to that I need to be in the US, Etrade was one of the accounts I had trouble accessing even with a VPN last time overseas and I'll be there for several weeks so I am hoping they still have that deal when I get back.

I also agree with DMC it's quite likely the interest rate goes up .25. We have some CD's with Wells Fargo last time we did the 7 month it had the best combination of rate and time, this time we'll do the 4 month to get the higher rate and shorter duration in case the rates go up

I've been doing these things for years it's kind of like arbitrage getting free money. Years ago I had money in a HP Credit Union account even though I didn't work for HP I was eligible because my mom and dad did. HPCU had this insane rule that they paid out a dividend I think quarterly might have been 6 months but you could transfer money in the day of the ex dividend and they would pay out the dividend on the full amount. So you could have 100 dollars in there and then on the last day put in 10K and you'd get a divident as if you had 10,100 dollars for the entire period. My sister actually worked there the ex dividend day was crazy busy with everyone coming in to deposit to get the free money
 

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Sounds like some of the rule stacking that I was fighting over with Chase. I ended up closing all of my accounts with them over it. Still trying to figure out what I want to do long term for a bank.

I've been using several brick and mortar banks. WAFD is my favorite among them. I quit using Chase as well.
 

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I opened a brokerage account with Fidelity based on a lot of videos I watched on Youtube. It's easy to have all the financial abilities in one place. Not sure Fidelity is the best. Lots of people like Schwab. At least on Youtube.
Most of my brokerage and retirement accounts are with Fidelity - I have been pretty happy overall, including with the amounts I earn on cash. I like that Fidelity automatically sweeps uninvested cash into a higher-yield money market fund, while Schwab sweeps idle cash into its affiliated bank at a rate pretty close to zero. To get a competitive market rate in my two Schwab accounts, I need to manually buy and sell the money market fund when I execute trades in other investments, like an equity security. I deal with this (I like having at least some institutional diversification) but Schwab's sweep practices are annoying and a little time consuming at times for me.
 

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Most of my brokerage and retirement accounts are with Fidelity - I have been pretty happy overall, including with the amounts I earn on cash. I like that Fidelity automatically sweeps uninvested cash into a higher-yield money market fund, while Schwab sweeps idle cash into its affiliated bank at a rate pretty close to zero. To get a competitive market rate in my two Schwab accounts, I need to manually buy and sell the money market fund when I execute trades in other investments, like an equity security. I deal with this (I like having at least some institutional diversification) but Schwab's sweep practices are annoying and a little time consuming at times for me.
Oof on Schwab. Vanguard is like Fidelity in that they use a money market fund as the sweep account. Its rates are usually similar to the one Fidelity uses for sweep. I thought that was fairly standard these days.

I think I'm going to open a Fidelity CMA now for my 2nd "checking". I don't think I'm going to move my brokerage account over though. Keep it with Vanguard for now. It'll be nice to be able to buy on Fidelity though since I won't have to wait for money to be transferred.
 

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Oof on Schwab. Vanguard is like Fidelity in that they use a money market fund as the sweep account. Its rates are usually similar to the one Fidelity uses for sweep. I thought that was fairly standard these days.

I think I'm going to open a Fidelity CMA now for my 2nd "checking". I don't think I'm going to move my brokerage account over though. Keep it with Vanguard for now. It'll be nice to be able to buy on Fidelity though since I won't have to wait for money to be transferred.
I happen to have my retirement account in Vanguard. I like their trading setup better than Fidelity, FWIW.
 

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I was surfing the internet and came up with an investment site named "Betterment."

It is reportedly an automation type investment business. I was wondering if anyone uses it or has thoughts about it.

 

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The advantage of the Etrade one is it's liquid as DMC said plus you get 250 dollar bonus so the 4% is more like 7. A friend of mine got in it, she accidentally completed it without using the coupon code so she called Etrade and after some transferring around they agreed to honor it anyways so she'll get the 4% for 6 months plus the 250 dollars after 45 days.

I need to move money around to do it and to that I need to be in the US, Etrade was one of the accounts I had trouble accessing even with a VPN last time overseas and I'll be there for several weeks so I am hoping they still have that deal when I get back.

I also agree with DMC it's quite likely the interest rate goes up .25. We have some CD's with Wells Fargo last time we did the 7 month it had the best combination of rate and time, this time we'll do the 4 month to get the higher rate and shorter duration in case the rates go up

I've been doing these things for years it's kind of like arbitrage getting free money. Years ago I had money in a HP Credit Union account even though I didn't work for HP I was eligible because my mom and dad did. HPCU had this insane rule that they paid out a dividend I think quarterly might have been 6 months but you could transfer money in the day of the ex dividend and they would pay out the dividend on the full amount. So you could have 100 dollars in there and then on the last day put in 10K and you'd get a divident as if you had 10,100 dollars for the entire period. My sister actually worked there the ex dividend day was crazy busy with everyone coming in to deposit to get the free money
Info on E*trade account you’re referring to?
 
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I was surfing the internet and came up with an investment site named "Betterment."

It is reportedly an automation type investment business. I was wondering if anyone uses it or has thoughts about it.

I don't personally use it but I have a couple buddies that are using their high yield savings account and like them for that. I don't know anyone that used them for investments though.
 

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I don't personally use it but I have a couple buddies that are using their high yield savings account and like them for that. I don't know anyone that used them for investments though.

I was surfing with an AI about investments and it came up with this.

It really liked it because you could put the money in there and forget about it, so to speak.
 
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I was surfing with an AI about investments and it came up with this.

It really liked it because you could put the money in there and forget about it, so to speak.
That's sort of what I do with my Vanguard account for the most part. I have my direct deposit go to it with part of it staying in my money market fund and part going into VOO, their S&P ETF. Mostly set and forget. I haven't found a good reason to not stick with a low overhead S&P option. The managed fund really haven't been outperforming it on a consistent basis. They might for one quarter and then the next quarter be down. Most of the market action has centered around the mag 7 and they're all in it.
 

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