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Not sure what the expectation was on the board. Were lots of people thinking the Cards should have beaten the 3 year contract the Fins gave Willis? How do they know the Cards didn’t make a bigger offer? I think the Cards likely set an upper limit on the potential contract and it didn’t get Willis. They supposedly made an offer. As to Garoppolo, IMO no big loss. Just somebody to compete with Brissett. For all we know the snag was not giving him a starting guarantee. Is Minshew the concern? Decent backup at the going rate or less depending on the bells & whistles. None of this would bar signing Simpson if the right trade down was there. Where did all the people clamoring for Brissett to get a chance go to? I’ll wait to see where the QB situation is after next year’s draft. The Cards may be going Simpson. They might be getting in position to make a move next year for a top QB. That is the hardest slot to fill and getting there is a chess game. I think it’s too early to render a final call. It’s fine to have an opinion, but it would be better to give it with your version of the solution. It just seems people are all over the place or complaining about things that it’s way to late to continue analyzing. The Murray ploy failed the only real issue now is where they should go from here? For me I’m okay with Simpson beyond the top 10 and going BPA with the other acquired pick, like the Dallas trade. If that doesn’t materialize, unless 2027 falls apart, I’m good with going all in on a QB in that draft.
 

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Not when you have a starter that went 1-11 last year. Going into next year with these two is a joke. No other way to look at it.

I mean, I think it's been pretty clear for some time that ALL OPTIONS WERE BAD.

I mean, I've said it enough times. What was you expecting?

Just to be clear, who should the backup to JB be?
 

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Brother the teams ahead of us in the division traded for their current starter, is their current starter’s fifth team, and drafted their current starter last.

Monti is doing nothing to gain ground on these guys, who have fought their way to the top of the mountain.

Brissett and Minshew are give-up options.

Oh right. Tell me, which starter level QB's are known to be available for trade right now?

I'm asking for all the QB needy teams.

There is nobody available for trade, all FA options get us a different version of 4th in the league and the odds of hitting on a QB that can start next year are a million to one.

But I'm all ears for your plan. Who should we trade for that's available? Which FA gets us off 4th in the division? Which draft pick can start right away and make us better than the Rams, Niners and Seahawks?
 

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I mean, I think it's been pretty clear for some time that ALL OPTIONS WERE BAD.

I mean, I've said it enough times. What was you expecting?

Just to be clear, who should the backup to JB be?
Have to try. This isn’t trying. Need someone to challenge JB. Jimmy G, hell go after Mariota. Willis would have been worth the gamble IMO. Tua at 1.5M would be better than this. Most importantly, if this is a tank year Monti should be gone.
 

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Have to try. This isn’t trying. Need someone to challenge JB. Jimmy G, hell go after Mariota. Willis would have been worth the gamble IMO. Tua at 1.5M would be better than this. Most importantly, if this is a tank year Monti should be gone.

Holy hell. Try what?

What part of ALL OPTIONS ARE BAD escaped you? None of the options are better than this, they are just a different version of bad.

Are you really getting your panties in a twist about a guy we hope never sees the field for a team already destined for a losing season? What's wrong with Minshew as a backup? He has 47 career starts, 1700 NFL pass attempts, 12000 yards and 68 touchdowns.

That's as good as it gets for a backup. So much so, that the Chiefs dynasty thought he should be their backup last year.
 

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Holy hell. Try what?

What part of ALL OPTIONS ARE BAD escaped you? None of the options are better than this, they are just a different version of bad.

Are you really getting your panties in a twist about a guy we hope never sees the field for a team already destined for a losing season? What's wrong with Minshew as a backup? He has 47 career starts, 1700 NFL pass attempts, 12000 yards and 68 touchdowns.

That's as good as it gets for a backup. So much so, that the Chiefs dynasty thought he should be their backup last year.
The apologist getting upset? Some options are better than others. So if he is a Chiefs backup he is good? Talk about laughable. Chief fans are laughing at our signing him. Remember they have a starter and we don’t. Good to know you are good with another tank year. So pathetic.
 

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You were excusing Monti for not spending money and now he's cheap. You changed your tune. Yes, it's easy to follow what you've been writing.
You are misunderstanding. I was not excusing him for saving money. I was saying that I thought he did an okay job the prior years. It’s not about spending money or not. Sport is about trying to compete and get better, and I would argue that part of Ossenfort’s job also is to bring hope to the fanbase. I have felt that since he was brought in. I don’t feel that now. Again, it is not about spending money. Everyone knows that this QB market sucks, but at least do something interesting. What would it have cost to buy Anthony Richardson? A swap of sixth rounders? Sure, it is very likely that the outcome would have been the same as now, but at least there would be a minimum of hope that LaFleur could turn him into the next great redemption story. I would turn the TV on to see what Richardson would do this week. Hell, sign Tua for nothing and try to re-invent him. Sign Cousins for the same as Minshew, win seven or eight games and avoid complete embarrassment.

I just cannot accept giving up six months before any game has been played. The plan cannot be to get Simpson, unless they want to get him at #3. The plan cannot be to gamble the entire season on positioning yourself to take a rookie. What if you don't get him? Then you have nothing. Not even some sort of interesting unknown option (well, maybe a fifth-rounder or something).

And another thing: I had absolutely expected something for the single reason that Ossenfort’s job is very, very much on the line. He is gambling that Gardner Minshew can save him from his doom? Really?!

I don’t know. Right now I am at maximum speed ahead on the draft-Love-train to make the team watchable.
 
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Minshew>>>>Richardson.
Minshew>Willis

Just say no to Richardson, he's total buns.

I've been sitting back and making snarky comments about Willis, but Willis promises to be the biggest bust of this FA cycle. Dude has had a limited amount of success with the Packers.
I think you are right, Krang. I really do. I don't think that Richardson will be any good. However, I could be wrong. At least Richardson has a ton of potential, so the slight chance that LaFleur could work some magic would give me just a tiny thing to look forward to finding out. Now I feel like I have nothing to look forward to.
 

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This year is kind of unprecedented from the standpoint that usually you'll have your true diehard kool-aiders and some fence riders defending the organization. The vast majority are so disgusted by an even more aggressive attempt not to try that we're pretty close to wholesale condemnation. Progress!
 

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We rolling with brisett - not the worse option. I think cutting km is stupid , with money paid, he should be beat on the field , not in the stands. It’s an emotional reaction, probably great for km, but not for the cards.
 

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We rolling with brisett - not the worse option. I think cutting km is stupid , with money paid, he should be beat on the field , not in the stands. It’s an emotional reaction, probably great for km, but not for the cards.

That tells you how much they don't like him.

You have to be really done with someone to eat that much money when there are no viable alternatives.
 

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The plan is becoming clear.
Shop around but we can live with Brissett.
Can’t go into a season with Slovis as our backup. Minshew is very similar to us signing Brissett to back up Murray.
Add to the o- line. We did. Enough? Not yet.
Add to the rb room. We now have a new #1 rb. We are not hoping Connor can return the form and no Pressure to over use Connor even if he’s 100%.
Add a receiver who is an upgrade ( imo) than Jones.

Now this all screams trade down. Depending how far down we could trade #3 (swap) pick up a 2027 first round pick and more.
We could use the extra picks to move up to grab Simpson( maybe). However, there will be some quality players on both lines.

At least we didn’t wait until next week to sign a player. However, if we do nothing else in free agency of notoriety, it will be an epic failure.
 

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Holy hell. Try what?

What part of ALL OPTIONS ARE BAD escaped you? None of the options are better than this, they are just a different version of bad.

Are you really getting your panties in a twist about a guy we hope never sees the field for a team already destined for a losing season? What's wrong with Minshew as a backup? He has 47 career starts, 1700 NFL pass attempts, 12000 yards and 68 touchdowns.

That's as good as it gets for a backup. So much so, that the Chiefs dynasty thought he should be their backup last year.
The Chiefs starter is going to be injured most of the year and they didn't attempt to sign their current backup. Maybe it's not as good as it gets. You don't think Minshew would've stayed in KC if he had the chance? They didn't want him.
 

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Holy hell. Try what?

What part of ALL OPTIONS ARE BAD escaped you? None of the options are better than this, they are just a different version of bad.

Are you really getting your panties in a twist about a guy we hope never sees the field for a team already destined for a losing season? What's wrong with Minshew as a backup? He has 47 career starts, 1700 NFL pass attempts, 12000 yards and 68 touchdowns.

That's as good as it gets for a backup. So much so, that the Chiefs dynasty thought he should be their backup last year.
The problem is locking in to Jacoby Brissett as your week 1 starter for as long as your can bear the pain.

When you can’t bear the pain anymore, you have to turn to… Gardner Minshew.

It’s just loser mentality and Total Quit all the way down.

As was repeated multiple times in the weeks leading up to today, it doesn’t take a lot of imagination to think there’s some upside in Anthony Richardson, Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, or JJ McCarthy.

It’s impossible to do that with Jacoby Brissett and Gardner Minshew.
 

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The Quarterback market really isn't that great to begin with. Teams only allocate a certain amount of dollars for each position based on what they see fit for their roster. Having Murray's cap hit definitely hurts this allocation. A bridge quarterback was the best case scenario, if free agency was the answer. To me, Willis has such a small sample size of work for the Cardinals to take the financial risk of signing him. If he were to sign here and not pan out, then it would prolong a setback. It's early so there are a lot of potential things that can play out. I wouldn't be shocked if Cardinals move back up in the first to get their guy. I would rather add pieces around the team, and revisit the qb position in 2027. Cardinals aren't a QB away from the Super Bowl, other pieces are needed. Let's pick up some of those now.
 
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