Cards RELEASE Eno Benjamin

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So, we made a move for Anderson, sending draft capital for a guy who just made a scene on the sidelines and has sucked here, but some behind the scenes anger at getting zero time gets our second best RB cut, at a position with very little depth?

The decisions this team makes are pretty confusing.
 

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So, we made a move for Anderson, sending draft capital for a guy who just made a scene on the sidelines and has sucked here, but some behind the scenes anger at getting zero time gets our second best RB cut, at a position with very little depth?

The decisions this team makes are pretty confusing.
You didn’t see the “I’ve had ENO-ugh” graffiti on Kliff’s fine crib.
 

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The only things that stands out with his release is that it seems like we have botched another player management situation. No reason you can't have a convo with Eno, tell him his usage will fluctuate significantly, and that you will release him if he feels he will get a better opportunity elsewhere. This isn't shocking in that despite Keim being the "alpha" he seems to struggle having a face to face, honest conversation with players about where they stand.

He wasn't getting playing time because he sucks in pass Pro and he has a drop issue. It's not all about running.

I'm sure they told him that.
 

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No reason you can't have a convo with Eno, tell him his usage will fluctuate significantly, and that you will release him if he feels he will get a better opportunity elsewhere. This isn't shocking in that despite Keim being the "alpha" he seems to struggle having a face to face, honest conversation with players about where they stand.
This seems like odd, Mitch-level speculation. There's no reason to believe that this conversation didn't occur, and for all we know he was released exactly because he feels he will get a better opportunity elsewhere. :shrug:

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This seems like odd, Mitch-level speculation. There's no reason to believe that this conversation didn't occur, and for all we know he was released exactly because he feels he will get a better opportunity elsewhere. :shrug:

...dave
I don't think this is idle speculation - MANY players have been alienated by the franchise, and Keim has been the guy in charge. At some point, there are just too many examples to chalk up as sour grapes.
 

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This seems like odd, Mitch-level speculation. There's no reason to believe that this conversation didn't occur, and for all we know he was released exactly because he feels he will get a better opportunity elsewhere. :shrug:

...dave
Except that is the complaint by most of our former players who have issues...They understand it is a business but they were never looked in the eye and told where they stood.
 

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Except that is the complaint by most of our former players who have issues...They understand it is a business but they were never looked in the eye and told where they stood.
I’m certainly not defending the front office but like they said the conversation absolutely could’ve happened… And conversely Eno could’ve blew up on them not liking the answer? You never know and call me crazy but as a professional your amount of playtime you’re getting should tell you exactly where you stand?
 

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The only things that stands out with his release is that it seems like we have botched another player management situation. No reason you can't have a convo with Eno, tell him his usage will fluctuate significantly, and that you will release him if he feels he will get a better opportunity elsewhere. This isn't shocking in that despite Keim being the "alpha" he seems to struggle having a face to face, honest conversation with players about where they stand.
this....
 

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Exactly. This is the same complaint that I had about Dogbe last week. I said it was indicative of a larger problem and here we are.
Dogbe was playing like Dog Schiess. He was falling out of the rotation and was replaced with a player of a much higher pedigree (Hill).

I'd agree with the sentiment that many former players have complained about Keim's inability to have the tough conversations with them, but the talent of Eno Benjamin can be easily replicated.
 

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Dogbe was playing like Dog Schiess. He was falling out of the rotation and was replaced with a player of a much higher pedigree (Hill).

I'd agree with the sentiment that many former players have complained about Keim's inability to have the tough conversations with them, but the talent of Eno Benjamin can be easily replicated.
So tell me, how does dropping a player that has had success in his career (Dogbe) on the weakest part of our team going to make us better?

How does dropping Eno when he is arguably our best back going to make us better?
 

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So tell me, how does dropping a player that has had success in his career (Dogbe) on the weakest part of our team going to make us better?
By adding someone better (Hill).
How does dropping Eno when he is arguably our best back going to make us better?
Arguably is the key word. Eno had a slew of opportunities and wasn't that good. He's literally a replacement level player. There are a dozen RBs sitting on their couch right now that are as good as Eno.
 

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By adding someone better (Hill).

Arguably is the key word. Eno had a slew of opportunities and wasn't that good. He's literally a replacement level player. There are a dozen RBs sitting on their couch right now that are as good as Eno.
You don't cut someone arguably the best player on the team without an immediate plan to replace them. If he is a replacement level player, and he is close to being the best back on the team, what does that tell you about the team?
 

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You don't cut someone arguably the best player on the team without an immediate plan to replace them.
They have a plan. It's called practice squad RBs.
If he is a replacement level player, and he is close to being the best back on the team, what does that tell you about the team?
That the Cardinals don't have a ton of talent at a position that isn't really that important? That's what it tells me.
 

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They have a plan. It's called practice squad RBs.

That the Cardinals don't have a ton of talent at a position that isn't really that important? That's what it tells me.
So cutting the talent that you do have somehow makes sense. Got it.
 

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So cutting the talent that you do have somehow makes sense. Got it.
When you have other players who can do the same thing, yes. You're acting like Eno was more than a backup player.

The Cardinals have Corey Clement (a guy who has actually played MORE than Eno) and Ty'son Williams. Both are of the same caliber of Eno Benjamin.
 

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When you have other players who can do the same thing, yes. You're acting like Eno was more than a backup player.

The Cardinals have Corey Clement (a guy who has actually played MORE than Eno) and Ty'son Williams. Both are of the same caliber of Eno Benjamin.
Are they tho? Why were they looking for NFL jobs in October (or whenever) when Eno Benjamin was the toast of training camp?
 

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Are they tho? Why were they looking for NFL jobs in October (or whenever) when Eno Benjamin was the toast of training camp?

How many “toasts of training camps” has this team had over the years that literally amounted to nothing and we’re out of the league not too much long later?
 

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When you have other players who can do the same thing, yes. You're acting like Eno was more than a backup player.

The Cardinals have Corey Clement (a guy who has actually played MORE than Eno) and Ty'son Williams. Both are of the same caliber of Eno Benjamin.

Benjamin probably knows the offense better than either of those guys, and has had time to build chemistry with K1, Colt, the offensive line etc.

And now Eno just went from getting a paycheck to not getting a paycheck, plus he's been a fringe player for a few years now. So all of the sudden he gets his hackles up to the point where he get's thrown on the street?

The move feels wrong Krang. On a few different levels. It doesn't say "First Class Organization" or "Well run organization". It does say "no leadership in the locker room".

It feels like there might be some discontent in the locker room.
 

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So, we made a move for Anderson, sending draft capital for a guy who just made a scene on the sidelines and has sucked here, but some behind the scenes anger at getting zero time gets our second best RB cut, at a position with very little depth?

The decisions this team makes are pretty confusing.
Exactly!
 

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