Brissett Wants $15 Million & Cards Say No

[CardNots]

MHJ is also self-repped, per spotrac.

At a 15 million ask, I wouldn't want to pay a good chunk to an agent. Likely his last big payday. On the other hand a good agent gets his commission and more from a agent negotiated contract versus DIY.

 

[kerouac9]

I'd never ever pay Brissett that much.

You wouldn’t make him the lowest-paid starting QB in the league? Never ever?

It’s not your money; what’s your concern?

Beck has no traits that Brissett doesn’t equal or exceed.

 

[kerouac9]

At a 15 million ask, I wouldn't want to pay a good chunk to an agent. Likely his last big payday. On the other hand a good agent gets his commission and more from a agent negotiated contract versus DIY.

Agent commissions in the NFL are capped at like 3%.

What’s the factual basis for the last part? IMO this is especially untrue for rookie contracts.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

You wouldn’t make him the lowest-paid starting QB in the league? Never ever?

It’s not your money; what’s your concern?

Beck has no traits that Brissett doesn’t equal or exceed.

I'm with Russ - I'd never name him a starter to begin with and definitely wouldn't pay him starter money.

He's not a starter - her just isn't

Why would you pay him double what Flacco signed for? Double Mariota?

There are plenty of no upside, mediocre vets making less than what he's currently making - let alone what he's asking for

It really doesn't look great when you allow yourself to get leveraged by the Jacoby Brissetts of the world - but that is the position they created for themselves

 

[kerouac9]

I'm with Russ - I'd never name him a starter to begin with and definitely wouldn't pay him starter money.

He's not a starter - her just isn't

Why would you pay him double what Flacco signed for? Double Mariota?

There are plenty of no upside, mediocre vets making less than what he's currently making - let alone what he's asking for

It really doesn't look great when you allow yourself to get leveraged by the Jacoby Brissetts of the world - but that is the position they created for themselves

This is the tax we pay for keeping Monti. Brissett is the starter and better than anyone else we have by a country mile.

I’m not sure why paying him as literally the worst veteran starter in the league is somehow unacceptable.

For what it’s worth I said we should have brought in Mariota or Zack Wilson or Trey Lance to at least provide a different look. That’s not what Monti decided to do because he’s the Jacoby Brissett of GMs.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

This is the tax we pay for keeping Monti. Brissett is the starter and better than anyone else we have by a country mile.

I’m not sure why paying him as literally the worst veteran starter in the league is somehow unacceptable.

Yeah - I see your POV for sure

I think the bigger issue is why is he running as a starter?

He's a fully replaceable player - I'd rate him as replaceable even as a backup

It's a position they mismanaged themselves into for sure

 

[BulldogCard]

You wouldn’t make him the lowest-paid starting QB in the league? Never ever?

It’s not your money; what’s your concern?

Beck has no traits that Brissett doesn’t equal or exceed.

Brissett is just too slow in a dual threat kind of league, and didn't finish. So, no.

 

[kerouac9]

Yeah - I see your POV for sure

I think the bigger issue is why is he running as a starter?

He's a fully replaceable player - I'd rate him as replaceable even as a backup

It's a position they mismanaged themselves into for sure

Because we suck? Because Monti is bad. Is Jacoby more than 75% worse than Malik Willis? I don’t think so.

He’s got us over a barrel for sure.

 

[kerouac9]

Brissett is just too slow in a dual threat kind of league, and didn't finish. So, no.

Jacoby had more first down rushes than James Conner and Trey Benson combined last season.

people mad and just making things up.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

They hardly played.

 

[Mainstreet]

Brissett needs to get paid guaranteed money similar to comparable quarterbacks.

I understand Minshew is guaranteed more money.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Because we suck? Because Monti is bad. Is Jacoby more than 75% worse than Malik Willis? I don’t think so.

He’s got us over a barrel for sure.

I don't think much of Willis, but he re-established himself as a young prospect that did well enough in relief that teams will take a risk on him as a starter - those guys have always been paid on the hope they work out, but seldom do

That is closer to Brissett when the colts extended him and made him the starter after Luck retired

Now???

He's just a guy - there are plenty of QBs on their last legs playing for scraps, many of which were better starters than him

I agree though, it reeks of mismanagement

For the cards fans who are against a bump - are you against it because you don't think he should be paid as a starter if he's a starter or are you upset that he's been anointed a starter to begin with?

It's the second part that from the outside makes no sense to me. I didn't see a need to do that or any benefit to doing that.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Brissett needs to get paid guaranteed money similar to comparable quarterbacks.

I understand Minshew is guaranteed more money.

Brissett is a veteran. His contract will be guaranteed when the season starts. When he signed his contract, he had $8M in guarantees.

 

[PJ1]

The fact this is still dragging on is definately same old Cardinals. Never thought it would happen but my interest is waning big time.

 

[Mainstreet]

Brissett is a veteran. His contract will be guaranteed when the season starts. When he signed his contract, he had $8M in guarantees.

I'm not as familiar with NFL salaries as I am NBA salaries.

However, I read only $1.5 million of Brissett's salary is presently guaranteed. Whereas, I understand Minshew is already guaranteed a one-year deal worth $5.75 million.

 

[kerouac9]

They hardly played.

They had 61 combined rushes. Jacoby had 38.

You could have checked these stats yourself.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm not as familiar with NFL salaries as I am NBA salaries.

However, I read only $1.5 million of Brissett's salary is presently guaranteed. Whereas, I understand Minshew is already guaranteed a one-year deal worth $5.75 million.

Jacoby has a $4.9 million salary that will be guaranteed if he’s on the roster week 1.

 

[Mainstreet]

Jacoby has a $4.9 million salary that will be guaranteed if he’s on the roster week 1.

Thanks for clarifying.

Still, I understand it's slightly less than Minshew and I suppose there is a risk he might not be on the roster?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

They had 61 combined rushes. Jacoby had 38.

You could have checked these stats yourself.

Wasn’t worth the time nor the comparison.

 

[some dumb guy]

Wasn’t worth the time nor the comparison.

That's funny. You made a statement, was proven wrong and instead of acknowledging it, you poo poo it away. Dude, I haven't been here long compared to most but, I have noticed that posts get acknowledged more or less due to the posters honesty.

I was honest once and got banned...that's not hypocritical, just a different story......LOLOLOL

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

That's funny. You made a statement, was proven wrong and instead of acknowledging it, you poo poo it away. Dude, I haven't been here long compared to most but, I have noticed that posts get acknowledged more or less due to the posters honesty.

I was honest once and got banned...that's not hypocritical, just a different story......LOLOLOL

No. It’s unimportant. The RBs barely played and it’s an anomaly that says nothing about JB’s worth . It’s such a small sample size it matters not.
It is certainly correct but it’s meaningless.

 

[some dumb guy]

They hardly played.

Ooooh, that may be why...

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Ooooh, that may be why...

Hence the reason for the statement. It wasn’t meant to be a counter to the stats, it was the reason.

 

[some dumb guy]

No. It’s unimportant. The RBs barely played and it’s an anomaly that says nothing about JB’s worth . It’s such a small sample size it matters not.
It is certainly correct but it’s meaningless.

I think the point is, JB had more rushing 1st downs...yes, it may be meaningless but it's a fact. That's all that was being pointed out.

It's all good. I'm not here to argue with anyone. You have some great posts and I respect that.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I think the point is, JB had more rushing 1st downs...yes, it may be meaningless but it's a fact. That's all that was being pointed out.

Correct…which is why I wasn’t disputing the stats.