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Phoenix Suns core under 25

SG: Jalen Green (24)
C: Mark Williams (24)
C: Oso Ighodaro (23)
F: Ryan Dunn (23)
F: Rasheer Fleming (21)
C: Khaman Maluach (19)
F: Koa Peat (19)

It's a huge reach to describe the brand-new #30 pick in the draft as being part of the "core."
 

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I hate this Mark Williams contract. This dude is not going to stay in the league for 3 years with his injury issues.

I really hope we ship him out at the deadline.
 

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What are you talking about?

All these resigning's mean, is the players like playing here.
I'm talking about the resigning players. Seems like they're all signing for decent team friendly deals.

Seems like a good thing if they like playing here.
 

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I hate this Mark Williams contract. This dude is not going to stay in the league for 3 years with his injury issues.

I really hope we ship him out at the deadline.
That's one view. Maybe the Suns know how to manage his playing time.

And yeah, maybe he will get shipped. This deal makes that possible. It's a pretty fair deal.

I'm used to seeing teams waaaay overpay and then they have to attach assets to move the player.
 

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I'm talking about the resigning players. Seems like they're all signing for decent team friendly deals.

Seems like a good thing if they like playing here.
Well, I don't agree on Mark Williams. I don't think anyone else would have paid him that, and if they would have we should have let them have him.

13 million a year for an unreliable backup is not a smart move. Yes - he should be Maluach's backup.
 

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Well, I don't agree on Mark Williams. I don't think anyone else would have paid him that, and if they would have we should have let them have him.

13 million a year for an unreliable backup is not a smart move. Yes - he should be Maluach's backup.

I wouldn't call him unreliable. I think we can rely on him for 60ish games. That's what he is. Maybe that's the plan. Backup Maluach in a year or 2. Not a bad salary for a backup of his skills. He's a pretty good player man!
 

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Well, I don't agree on Mark Williams. I don't think anyone else would have paid him that, and if they would have we should have let them have him.

13 million a year for an unreliable backup is not a smart move. Yes - he should be Maluach's backup.
11.7 year 1
12.636 year 2
13.64 year 3

Mark was 8th among centers in PER in the league last year. He was behind Jokic, Duren, Embiid, Williams III, Jarrett Allen, KAT, and Jonas V. The average number of games played last year by that group is 61.

He had a pretty normal year for an NBA center health wise.
 
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Mark was 8th among centers in PER in the league last year. He was behind Jokic, Duren, Embiid, Williams III, Jarrett Allen, KAT, and Jonas V. The average number of games played last year by that group is 61.

He had a pretty normal year for an NBA center health wise.
It's a big risk discount deal, otherwise MW would be good for 25m per y, double the amount he got here. With this, Suns will use MW carefully during the season, to optimize the chances of him sufficiently healthy for the playoffs. When healthy he is top 10 center.
A great deal for Suns.
 

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The Suns will be paying only $28.3 million combined next season for three key rotation pieces they re-signed:

Mark Williams: $11.7 million
Collin Gillespie: $10.7 million
Jordan Goodwin: $5.9 million

Good business from Phoenix.
 

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I hate this Mark Williams contract. This dude is not going to stay in the league for 3 years with his injury issues.

There are no durable players anymore. No matter who it is, you're figuring on maybe 60 games a season, and anything above that is a bonus.
 

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Suns not even close to the second apron after signingt Mark Williams for those concerned. About $7.5 under it as of now. They will NOT go into the second apron.
 

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If Mark Williams' new contract with the Phoenix Suns follows the standard 8% raise structure, it will look like this:

26-27: $11.7M
27-28: $12.7M
28-29: $13.6M

Phoenix projects to be $5.1M under their second-apron hard cap. The Suns currently have all 15 standard roster spots filled.
 

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That's one view. Maybe the Suns know how to manage his playing time.
We literally saw last season that no matter what their time management plan was, it failed. Just like every other season of his career.

Believing that’s going to just change for… reasons… well, I just don’t get it.
 

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