2026 Arizona Off Season Thread

[oaken1]

They aren't but I am not willing to concede my expectations of them acting like one.

"A poverty mindset is a psychological framework rooted in scarcity, fear, and the belief that resources are limited, often causing individuals to feel trapped in lack, self-doubt, and risk aversion, regardless of their actual financial status. It acts as a survival mechanism developed from enduring poverty or trauma, frequently causing people to avoid necessary growth, opportunities, and change due to the fear of losing what little they have."

-AI

Understood. Thanks for the legit response.

I disagree that I possess this mindset however in regards to the team. My viewpoint on them is not based on any fear of risk or running out of resources. But more a belief that one learns from history or is doomed to repeat it. as yourself and others have pointed out countless times in various darksider threads...rather the reason be some mystical curse or just repeated bumbling they just continue to make the wrong decision and when they make one that appears to be correct it invariably goes wrong....and with the obvious decline in play by so many rookies and even veteran players signed as FA..it is not wise to expect positive player development from anybody involved with the team right now.

we certainly had line development when Adams was here. yet even then it was obvious the o line was being developed more successfully than any other group.
so, in a weak draft why not bring in the guy in least need of development? To do otherwise is just repeating history and expecting success in an area they have shown none in recent history...and bringing in a rookie RB while paying him the 7th highest salary and the purely highest total financial guarantee is certainly not showing any fear of running out of resources.

 

[Adrian]

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[Cheesebeef]

From the minds who last off-season brought you BJ Ojulari is DOMINANT, comes…

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SleeperCardinals

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"When Marvin's been on the field, he is everything that's come as advertised.

Monti Ossenfort on the expectations for Marv this season

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Man, these guys keep serving fans steaming hot piss, trying to pass it off as cold lemonade and it’s real annoying.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Monti cmon bro

These guys…

 

[Stout]

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"When Marvin's been on the field, he is everything that's come as advertised. We just gotta find a way to iron out some of those inconsistencies, keep him healthy, and get him going in this system."

Monti Ossenfort on the expectations for Marv this season

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Bull puckey.

 

[Chopper0080]

The good thing about MHJ is that he is at least producing at the level he is being paid in comparison to other players in that pay range. The bad thing is we all hoped, wanted, expected so much more.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The good thing about MHJ is that he is at least producing at the level he is being paid in comparison to other players in that pay range. The bad thing is we all hoped, wanted, expected so much more.

Yeah, he's got this year to bring his level of play up to start being considered for a 2nd contract.

 

[Harry]

Certainly retaining Campbell had a “feels good” aspect. However, as I just posted he largely duplicates what the Cards hope Proctor is. I’d rather give those snaps to Proctor. Wish the best to Campbell but he’s not the future. What the Cards may lack is an anchor. campbell isn’t that.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Certainly retaining Campbell had a “feels good” aspect. However, as I just posted he largely duplicates what the Cards hope Proctor is. I’d rather give those snaps to Proctor. Wish the best to Campbell but he’s not the future. What the Cards may lack is an anchor. campbell isn’t that.

Proctor like Campbell? I can think of a lot of guys on the line that Proctor looks like, but Campbell definitely isn't one of them.

 

[kerouac9]

Certainly retaining Campbell had a “feels good” aspect. However, as I just posted he largely duplicates what the Cards hope Proctor is. I’d rather give those snaps to Proctor. Wish the best to Campbell but he’s not the future. What the Cards may lack is an anchor. campbell isn’t that.

Plenty of snaps available for a player who is actually good and would be no worse than the 3rd best DL player.

 

[Chopper0080]

Certainly retaining Campbell had a “feels good” aspect. However, as I just posted he largely duplicates what the Cards hope Proctor is. I’d rather give those snaps to Proctor. Wish the best to Campbell but he’s not the future. What the Cards may lack is an anchor. campbell isn’t that.

I really disagree with this. Every DL uses a rotation, and it probably doesn't improve your roster to replace the most productive player from your DL with a 4th round draft pick who has not played a snap in the NFL. I have no idea what Proctor is going to be at the NFL level, no one does, which is the point. To build a roster expecting him to replace the production of Calais Campbell last year is such a bad process.

 

[Chopper0080]

Do people not understand what having a sold NFL roster looks like? It is having multiple good players at multiple position groups who have a proven level of production at the NFL level.

 

[GatorAZ]

Forget sacks. Monti can’t even draft a dude that beats his man.
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[Adrian]

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[Adrian]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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[Harry]

Proctor like Campbell? I can think of a lot of guys on the line that Proctor looks like, but Campbell definitely isn't one of them.

Not physical match, but same penetration skills.

 

[Cardiac]

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Well Larry doesn't agree or he would not have kept re-signing with the Cards.

 

[BritCard]

How do you finish 4th in your division, pick 3rd and have the toughest schedule in the league?

I know much of this is playing the Seahawks, Niners and Rams 6 times but jeez, throw us a bone with the rest of the schedule.

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[kerouac9]

How do you finish 4th in your division, pick 3rd and have the toughest schedule in the league?

I know much of this is playing the Seahawks, Niners and Rams 6 times but jeez, throw us a bone with the rest of the schedule.

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Only three games are decided by results from the prior season. It’s almost entirely driven by the Cards strength of division and a small amount by the Lions being 9-8 as a fourth place team.

 

[some dumb guy]

Only three games are decided by results from the prior season. It’s almost entirely driven by the Cards strength of division and a small amount by the Lions being 9-8 as a fourth place team.

Let me ask a question. If you remove the top 5 and bottom 5 teams, aren't the remaining 22 teams basically even? I mean those teams will win or lose mostly due to turnovers, inappropriate timed or excessive penalties. Or the occasional great play by either offense or defense that flips the momentum. If you could break that down, I'd appreciate it

 

[kerouac9]

Let me ask a question. If you remove the top 5 and bottom 5 teams, aren't the remaining 22 teams basically even? I mean those teams will win or lose mostly due to turnovers, inappropriate timed or excessive penalties. Or the occasional great play by either offense or defense that flips the momentum. If you could break that down, I'd appreciate it

You’re kind of asking two questions here.

1) The Jets, Titans, Raiders, and Cardinals were clearly the worst teams in the NFL. They all had a point differential of at least -133. I’d argue the next-worst group (Giants and Browns) weren’t nearly as hapless. The Giants actually had a higher point differential than the Commies.

At the top of the league, it’s harder to tell. I think the Pats are deeply fraudulent but they lead the conference in point differential. Only the Rams and Seahawks were above them. Chicago’s point differential was less than Indy’s.

2) I like Pythagorean wins as a metric for overall quality as well as DVOA. By DVOA, the Rams and Hawks were head and shoulders above everyone else. Most games are decided by a TD or less, and (obviously) the results of those games hinge on a couple of high-leverage results.

When I’m thinking about what teams are likely to overperform or underperform in an upcoming season, I look at how many one-score games they had and what their results were. A team with a lot of one-score games and better than +2 in wins is likely to underperform the following year.

The Cards were unlucky in one score games early in the season and were so bad at the end they didn’t give themselves a chance to let the luck even out. I think the hope this season is

 

[az jam]

Strength of the schedule at this time of the year is meaningless just something to talk about. Teams change so much in the off season that they are not the same that finished the past season.

 

[daves]

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WTF is [edit:] Cris Carter going on about, saying "I'm gonna tell you something that you've never heard before about the Arizona Cardinals". Literally EVERYONE who even casually follows the Cardinals closely enough to know Bidwill's name knows that he sucks! Wow, what a scoop!

EDIT: Duh, I posted after listening but not watching the video. Obviously that's Cris Carter. The point remains, though!

 

[oaken1]

WTF is Larry Sr. going on about, saying "I'm gonna tell you something that you've never heard before about the Arizona Cardinals". Literally EVERYONE who even casually follows the Cardinals closely enough to know Bidwill's name knows that he sucks! Wow, what a scoop!

dude... that aint Larry Sr....

Pretty sure... that is Chris "He only catches touchdowns" Carter