2025 NFC West Predicted (for Those that Can Read)

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First the 49ers…

When SF missed playoffs in 2020 they were 6-10. In 2021 they went 10-7. That year SEA and AZ swept them. The only reason they made playoffs was by sweeping the Rams who ironically beat SF in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl. SF accomplished this turnaround by adding talent to a defense that was already becoming close to top 5. So their division record was only 2-4 that year.

SF 2022. 12-4. 6-0 vs div.

Outscoring us 171-51 in all 6.

Trend begins…

SF 2023. 13-4. 5-1 vs div.

Outscoring us 190-127.

SF 2024 6-11 1-5 vs div

We outscored them 150-144.

Is 2025 a repeat of 2021?

No.


2025 SF Free Agent Losses:

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But just how bad was SF defense last season? A defense known to make up for the injuries on the offense that have happened the last few years. So that is not an excuse. SF was 1-2 in games Mccaffrey started including losing to SEA. Now their depth at RB and WR is gone with injury prone stars still there.

The Cardinals put up the same amount of pts on SF DEF in 2 gms then we did in 4 gms vs sea and lar.

Will adding rookies to key positions help?

Can it fix this?


AZ pts vs division

Vs SF: 71-51

Vs LAR: 50-23

Vs SEA: 23-44

But so and so on SF got hurt.

Yeah they are very injury prone team with a non-name secondary.


This is a team that improves their run defense with their first two draft picks. They improve their PPG allowed from 28th perhaps to 20th. But this not 2020. This is an 8-9 win team at best.

2-4 in div. (1-5 last year)

Wins:

CLE TENN

Non div Losses:

At HOU, at TB.

= 4-6.

vs CAR, vs JAX, at IND, vs CHI, vs ATL, at CLE, at NYG

= 5-2 at best. 4-3 very possible with any key injuries.

5 of these teams at least will be better this year.

P.S. So I am betting against something that has never happened in 50 years of our division…The worst defense has never won it. And SF will be worse on defense than AZ SEA and LAR again.

The Rams

Rams pts in 2024

Vs AZ: 23 (a 4 pt win)

Vs SF: 39 (a 6 pt win)

Vs Sea: 51 (a 5 pt win)

Stafford has no excuse for the 13 pts he only managed at home vs a below average AZ defense last year with an offense that didn’t have Connor. He has been declining and played horrible in that game. It will not get easier with Davante Adams who we shut down last year. Especially with Will Johnson and our pass rush.

Rams have toughest schedule in our division.

Rams losses at home:

DET HOU TB

Losses On Road:

AZ SF PHI BAL SEA

rams wins:

AZ SEA SF IND JAX CAR ATL NO TEN

= 9-8

If they beat HOU they will lose one of the gms I have as wins. 9-8 is most likely outcome. 10 would be overachieving this year.

Seahawks

I could go into detail or I could make it easy. They aren’t winning 10 with Darnold so they won’t the division.


SEA:

3-3 in division.

losses:

At WAS, vs TB

wins:

CAR NO ATL TEN IND

3-3 + 5-2 is 8-5

4 games left:

At PITT (will have qb)

Vs MIN (defensive game)

Vs HOU (50-50 game)

At JAX (trap game)

2-2 in last 4.

= 9-8 at best.

Standings:

AZ 10-7

2 teams at 9-8

8-9 team.
 

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Cards 10-7 CHEAT SHEET

(AZ 3-3 in div at worst) Like last year.

Scenario 1

Non div home wins:

TEN NO CAR ATL

Non div road wins:

DAL

3-3 + 5-0 is 8-3

6 games left:

Vs GB

At Jax

At Cin

At TB

At HOU

At IND

2-4 in these 6.

8-3 + 2-4 =10-7

Scenario 2

If we only go 3-1 vs TEN NO ATL and CAR at home cuz we blow one.

+ 3-3 in div

+ W vs DAL

= 7-4

Then

Go 3-3 vs

JAX CIN GB IND TB HOU

= 10-7.

Scenario 3

4-2 in division = 10 wins.


















6-4
 

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First the 49ers…

When SF missed playoffs in 2020 they were 6-10. In 2021 they went 10-7. That year SEA and AZ swept them. The only reason they made playoffs was by sweeping the Rams who ironically beat SF in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl. SF accomplished this turnaround by adding talent to a defense that was already becoming close to top 5. So their division record was only 2-4 that year.

SF 2022. 12-4. 6-0 vs div.

Outscoring us 171-51 in all 6.

Trend begins…

SF 2023. 13-4. 5-1 vs div.

Outscoring us 190-127.

SF 2024 6-11 1-5 vs div

We outscored them 150-144.

Is 2025 a repeat of 2021?

No.


2025 SF Free Agent Losses:

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But just how bad was SF defense last season? A defense known to make up for the injuries on the offense that have happened the last few years. So that is not an excuse. SF was 1-2 in games Mccaffrey started including losing to SEA. Now their depth at RB and WR is gone with injury prone stars still there.

The Cardinals put up the same amount of pts on SF DEF in 2 gms then we did in 4 gms vs sea and lar.

Will adding rookies to key positions help?

Can it fix this?


AZ pts vs division

Vs SF: 71-51

Vs LAR: 50-23

Vs SEA: 23-44

But so and so on SF got hurt.

Yeah they are very injury prone team with a non-name secondary.


This is a team that improves their run defense with their first two draft picks. They improve their PPG allowed from 28th perhaps to 20th. But this not 2020. This is an 8-9 win team at best.

2-4 in div. (1-5 last year)

Wins:

CLE TENN

Non div Losses:

At HOU, at TB.

= 4-6.

vs CAR, vs JAX, at IND, vs CHI, vs ATL, at CLE, at NYG

= 5-2 at best. 4-3 very possible with any key injuries.

5 of these teams at least will be better this year.

P.S. So I am betting against something that has never happened in 50 years of our division…The worst defense has never won it. And SF will be worse on defense than AZ SEA and LAR again.

The Rams

Rams pts in 2024

Vs AZ: 23 (a 4 pt win)

Vs SF: 39 (a 6 pt win)

Vs Sea: 51 (a 5 pt win)

Stafford has no excuse for the 13 pts he only managed at home vs a below average AZ defense last year with an offense that didn’t have Connor. He has been declining and played horrible in that game. It will not get easier with Davante Adams who we shut down last year. Especially with Will Johnson and our pass rush.

Rams have toughest schedule in our division.

Rams losses at home:

DET HOU TB

Losses On Road:

AZ SF PHI BAL SEA

rams wins:

AZ SEA SF IND JAX CAR ATL NO TEN

= 9-8

If they beat HOU they will lose one of the gms I have as wins. 9-8 is most likely outcome. 10 would be overachieving this year.

Seahawks

I could go into detail or I could make it easy. They aren’t winning 10 with Darnold so they won’t the division.


SEA:

3-3 in division.

losses:

At WAS, vs TB

wins:

CAR NO ATL TEN IND

3-3 + 5-2 is 8-5

4 games left:

At PITT (will have qb)

Vs MIN (defensive game)

Vs HOU (50-50 game)

At JAX (trap game)

2-2 in last 4.

= 9-8 at best.

Standings:

AZ 10-7

2 teams at 9-8

8-9 team.
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simplified:

SF: so many changes. Will they help or hurt?
SEA: even more changes than SF.
Rams: probably the favorite, but unconvincing
Cards: added big to the D. Is it enough?

That's not simplified.

This below is simplified...

First the 49ers…

When SF missed playoffs in 2020 they were 6-10. In 2021 they went 10-7. That year SEA and AZ swept them. The only reason they made playoffs was by sweeping the Rams who ironically beat SF in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl. SF accomplished this turnaround by adding talent to a defense that was already becoming close to top 5. So their division record was only 2-4 that year.

SF 2022. 12-4. 6-0 vs div.

Outscoring us 171-51 in all 6.

Trend begins…

SF 2023. 13-4. 5-1 vs div.

Outscoring us 190-127.

SF 2024 6-11 1-5 vs div

We outscored them 150-144.

Is 2025 a repeat of 2021?

No.


2025 SF Free Agent Losses:

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But just how bad was SF defense last season? A defense known to make up for the injuries on the offense that have happened the last few years. So that is not an excuse. SF was 1-2 in games Mccaffrey started including losing to SEA. Now their depth at RB and WR is gone with injury prone stars still there.

The Cardinals put up the same amount of pts on SF DEF in 2 gms then we did in 4 gms vs sea and lar.

Will adding rookies to key positions help?

Can it fix this?


AZ pts vs division

Vs SF: 71-51

Vs LAR: 50-23

Vs SEA: 23-44

But so and so on SF got hurt.

Yeah they are very injury prone team with a non-name secondary.


This is a team that improves their run defense with their first two draft picks. They improve their PPG allowed from 28th perhaps to 20th. But this not 2020. This is an 8-9 win team at best.

2-4 in div. (1-5 last year)

Wins:

CLE TENN

Non div Losses:

At HOU, at TB.

= 4-6.

vs CAR, vs JAX, at IND, vs CHI, vs ATL, at CLE, at NYG

= 5-2 at best. 4-3 very possible with any key injuries.

5 of these teams at least will be better this year.

P.S. So I am betting against something that has never happened in 50 years of our division…The worst defense has never won it. And SF will be worse on defense than AZ SEA and LAR again.

The Rams

Rams pts in 2024

Vs AZ: 23 (a 4 pt win)

Vs SF: 39 (a 6 pt win)

Vs Sea: 51 (a 5 pt win)

Stafford has no excuse for the 13 pts he only managed at home vs a below average AZ defense last year with an offense that didn’t have Connor. He has been declining and played horrible in that game. It will not get easier with Davante Adams who we shut down last year. Especially with Will Johnson and our pass rush.

Rams have toughest schedule in our division.

Rams losses at home:

DET HOU TB

Losses On Road:

AZ SF PHI BAL SEA

rams wins:

AZ SEA SF IND JAX CAR ATL NO TEN

= 9-8

If they beat HOU they will lose one of the gms I have as wins. 9-8 is most likely outcome. 10 would be overachieving this year.

Seahawks

I could go into detail or I could make it easy. They aren’t winning 10 with Darnold so they won’t the division.


SEA:

3-3 in division.

losses:

At WAS, vs TB

wins:

CAR NO ATL TEN IND

3-3 + 5-2 is 8-5

4 games left:

At PITT (will have qb)

Vs MIN (defensive game)

Vs HOU (50-50 game)

At JAX (trap game)

2-2 in last 4.

= 9-8 at best.

Standings:

AZ 10-7

2 teams at 9-8

8-9 team.
 

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Based on what we saw in last year's team getting to 8-9, I have to believe we made enough changes on the defensive side of the ball to add 2-3 games. First, the defense will be much better. Second, as a result of the defense being better, we will stop other teams and give us at least 1-2 additional offensive possessions per game. This should translate in at least one additional score.

Now the real question is will Kyler completely dive into understanding what defenses are doing against him? He has the talent! But, each season we saw the same thing.... fading toward the back half of the season. First we thought it was Kingsbury bringing his experience from TT. Now, Kyler has shown that he fades. Part of it is him not understanding the defenses and part of it is the other teams figuring out what our offense is trying to do and we can't make adjustments (Kyler doesn't read defenses).

I am optomistic about this year. I really believe we are goint to get to 11 wins but is that enough to take the division? We witnessed what can happen when you get home field during the playoffs - it's paramount! If we don't get home field, it won't matter!
 

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Based on what we saw in last year's team getting to 8-9, I have to believe we made enough changes on the defensive side of the ball to add 2-3 games. First, the defense will be much better. Second, as a result of the defense being better, we will stop other teams and give us at least 1-2 additional offensive possessions per game. This should translate in at least one additional score.

Now the real question is will Kyler completely dive into understanding what defenses are doing against him? He has the talent! But, each season we saw the same thing.... fading toward the back half of the season. First we thought it was Kingsbury bringing his experience from TT. Now, Kyler has shown that he fades. Part of it is him not understanding the defenses and part of it is the other teams figuring out what our offense is trying to do and we can't make adjustments (Kyler doesn't read defenses).

I am optomistic about this year. I really believe we are goint to get to 11 wins but is that enough to take the division? We witnessed what can happen when you get home field during the playoffs - it's paramount! If we don't get home field, it won't matter!
13 wins would remove my anxiety about rebuilding this organization:)

But then it will be about Kyler winning his first playoff game bringing back a higher level of anxiety and a crap load of questions. A fan’s life, sigh…
 

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Has this been resolved yet?
i ate 3 gummy bears this morning and tried to crack it - i believe it to be possible outcomes (plural) for our division this year with references to recent past years to support each scenario - but when i get my ring i'll let you know for sure
 

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