2025 3rd round pick #75 is Jordan Burch Edge

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I'm actually moderately excited about Burch. I love his versatility, since he can rush as a backer and an end in a base 4-3. You could roll out a DL with Robinson, Tomlinson, Nolen, and Burch.
I am as well. His size/speed combo is freakish and he has some production too.
 

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I am as well. His size/speed combo is freakish and he has some production too.
He has some pedigree too, being a five star. He was the second highest ranked recruit in University of South Carolina history behind Marcus Lattimore.

He's far from a finished produce, he's basically just a size speed guy who plays with intensity, but only uses a pass rush move or two. LOL that's still better than Zaven who still looked lost as a pass rusher last year.

One think I have consistently read from scouts is that guys like him who can win with a bull rush have a better chance to develop as pass rusher compared to speed rushers with no moves. Edge have to be able to win with power.
 

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He has some pedigree too, being a five star. He was the second highest ranked recruit in University of South Carolina history behind Marcus Lattimore.

He's far from a finished produce, he's basically just a size speed guy who plays with intensity, but only uses a pass rush move or two. LOL that's still better than Zaven who still looked lost as a pass rusher last year.

One think I have consistently read from scouts is that guys like him who can win with a bull rush have a better chance to develop as pass rusher compared to speed rushers with no moves. Edge have to be able to win with power.

There has been such a massive infusion of talent to the front seven. Pretty breath taking actually.
 

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I am as well. His size/speed combo is freakish and he has some production too.
I am super hopeful

the logical brain tells me that while the NFL isnt perfect at drafting, its still pretty efficient --

I ask myself: how does a player at a premium position, with ideal measurables, solid production in a power 5 program, and no real off the field issues last as long as he did? what am i missing here?
 

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I am super hopeful

the logical brain tells me that while the NFL isnt perfect at drafting, its still pretty efficient --

I ask myself: how does a player at a premium position, with ideal measurables, solid production in a power 5 program, and no real off the field issues last as long as he did? what am i missing here?
already 24
 

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I know there's going to be a learning curve for rookies and some won’t pan out and it will take a while for a bunch of new pieces to fit together, but gawd damn I’m excited to see how this defense performs by midseason!
I think most of us would agree that when you're upgrading a unit, one swing at the bar ISN'T sufficient. Even though it didn't work out, the year Keim draft three WRs, that's a smart play to really upgrade a unit, he just picked the wrong three.

The DL isn't just a FA approach or a rookie approach, it's both. And I love the flexibility of the players that he brought in. Calais has flexibility, Sweat has some flexibility, Nolen probably does, and Burch absolutely does.
 

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I think most of us would agree that when you're upgrading a unit, one swing at the bar ISN'T sufficient. Even though it didn't work out, the year Keim draft three WRs, that's a smart play to really upgrade a unit, he just picked the wrong three.

The DL isn't just a FA approach or a rookie approach, it's both. And I love the flexibility of the players that he brought in. Calais has flexibility, Sweat has some flexibility, Nolen probably does, and Burch absolutely does.
In some situations the shotgun approach is just necessary.
Right now we have established NFL players worried they wont have a team come august...the competition to make the roster is going to be fierce.
Our worst guy in the rotation in 2025 is likely to be better or at least equal to the best guy last October
similar situation in the secondary...guys gotta be wondering how the roster is going to shake out.

It would be nice if we had similar competitive pressure on the offense... but I still think we will be okay there and we can hit it again next season
 

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In some situations the shotgun approach is just necessary.
Right now we have established NFL players worried they wont have a team come august...the competition to make the roster is going to be fierce.
Our worst guy in the rotation in 2025 is likely to be better or at least equal to the best guy last October
similar situation in the secondary...guys gotta be wondering how the roster is going to shake out.

It would be nice if we had similar competitive pressure on the offense... but I still think we will be okay there and we can hit it again next season
Completely agreed. The Cardinals didn't resign Roy Lopez because Roy Lopez would be like the 6th best DL on the roster. I bet LJ Collier is legit anxious about making this team. Stills was probably the best DL overall and he's maybe the 5th best guy now.

Burch makes the edge room more interesting too. Sweat, Browning, Collins, Burch, and Ojulari looks MUCH better than last year's room.

The CB room is real tough to figure out what is going to happen because you have a mix of vets and young guys. Does SMB or STV get the boot in favor of keeping Burke? I think it's a strong possibility; Melton outplayed STV last year. Crazy enough I could see both getting cut/traded. Melton and Johnson on the outside, super slot Garrett Williams with Jones and Burke as depth. Kitan Crawford has a real chance to stick at #4 safety.
 

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Completely agreed. The Cardinals didn't resign Roy Lopez because Roy Lopez would be like the 6th best DL on the roster. I bet LJ Collier is legit anxious about making this team. Stills was probably the best DL overall and he's maybe the 5th best guy now.

Burch makes the edge room more interesting too. Sweat, Browning, Collins, Burch, and Ojulari looks MUCH better than last year's room.

The CB room is real tough to figure out what is going to happen because you have a mix of vets and young guys. Does SMB or STV get the boot in favor of keeping Burke? I think it's a strong possibility; Melton outplayed STV last year. Crazy enough I could see both getting cut/traded. Melton and Johnson on the outside, super slot Garrett Williams with Jones and Burke as depth. Kitan Crawford has a real chance to stick at #4 safety.
my biggest interest is on the DLine...we need to keep the youngsters...so Robinson, Nolen, Burch, and likely Stills are nearly locks to make the roster unless a youngster just busts completely...
Thats 4 already..add in CC and Tomlinson...thats 6....but Collier, Nichols, and Jones are all vets with experience and a bit of leadership...though CC will probably lead the group...we are gonna have to eat at least one contract unless we can stash a vet on the PS.....
 

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I think most of us would agree that when you're upgrading a unit, one swing at the bar ISN'T sufficient. Even though it didn't work out, the year Keim draft three WRs, that's a smart play to really upgrade a unit, he just picked the wrong three.

The DL isn't just a FA approach or a rookie approach, it's both. And I love the flexibility of the players that he brought in. Calais has flexibility, Sweat has some flexibility, Nolen probably does, and Burch absolutely does.
I like the mix of vets and draft. It’s the right way (imo) to rebuild a weakness into a strength.
 

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I like the mix of vets and draft. It’s the right way (imo) to rebuild a weakness into a strength.
yep -- when they do those rankings of teams by average age you see that younger usually correlates to fewer wins
 

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