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I don't know that another oft injured, poor passing, slow playing, mid range obsessed guy who can't defend his position will move the needle much for us.

We don't need Beal if we are hanging onto Book and KD. This would be like trading cp3 for BI. We need length and depth at the forward position. They also could use Beal more than we could and there's a bit of a logjam at the forward spot for them.
 

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We don't need Beal if we are hanging onto Book and KD. This would be like trading cp3 for BI. We need length and depth at the forward position. They also could use Beal more than we could and there's a bit of a logjam at the forward spot for them.
Except they already have CJ McCollum, so Beal is redundant. Just because we did it doesn't mean other teams will.
 

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We don't need Beal if we are hanging onto Book and KD. This would be like trading cp3 for BI. We need length and depth at the forward position. They also could use Beal more than we could and there's a bit of a logjam at the forward spot for them.

I would not trade CP3 for Ingram either.

This trade can't really happen regardless but I don't know what Ingram brings to the table that we don't already have in spades... both in a negative and positive way.

We need players who can create for others, who can move without the ball, who can rebound, who can defend their position, who can stay healthy.

Ingram does none of those things, he's actually quite terrible at most of them.
 

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ESPN+ has an article out of the most valuable players from the first round. 1 Sun was on there, at #20, and no one else even got an honorable mention. They even make mention of the Suns "Big 3" being among the most disappointing Big 3 ever assembled.

20. Devin Booker, PG, Phoenix Suns

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RAPTOR Wins: 0.6 | BPM Wins: 0.6 | Win Shares: 0.5 | PER Wins: 0.8 | Consensus Wins: 0.6 | Per game: 0.161

The Suns suffered what was probably the most humiliating defeat of the first round, with their supposed superteam getting swept by the Wolves in a series that was seldom all that competitive. But amid all the finger-pointing in Phoenix, one cannot blame Booker for the loss. He averaged 27.5 points, 6.0 assists and 3.3 rebounds per game in the series while posting a true shooting percentage (66.2%) that was nearly 20% better than the league's playoff average. The Suns' net rating was also 18.0 points per 100 possessions better with Booker in the game than not, indicating how much he was trying to keep Phoenix afloat by himself. (Witness the 49 points he dropped in the elimination game of the series; the Suns were plus-1 in almost 45 minutes with him on the court, and minus-7 when he sat.)


What's next? Phoenix is going to have to answer many questions this offseason about why the star-studded combination of Booker, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal failed to jell this season. (That group instead claimed a place among the league's all-time list of most disappointing Big Threes.) The team mortgaged most of its future draft picks to assemble that trio, and it's hard to see the 2024-25 Suns not having the same problems as this year's team -- namely, a top-heavy roster with stars who can't stay healthy.) But Booker remains a bright spot as one of the best players in franchise history.

 

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