2021 2nd round pick is Rondale Moore WR

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  1. football karma

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    this is how i think of AJ Green

    he takes over the Larry Fitz role, but plays outside: dependable vet with great hands
     
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    Here's an analysis from one of the Purdue writers (this coming from Rivals):

     
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    It is a great video on Moore. I posted it in another thread but it got overlooked methinks. The kid is a stud & is going to be a great addition to our offense.
     
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    The ghost of Larry Fitzgerald? Really? Show the man a little respect please. He's still probably better than half of the WR's in the league not to mention on our team.
     
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    The more I learn about Rondale the more I love him, that is all
     
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    Usage rate and catchable passes have a lot to do with that though as well.

    Izzy:
    College 229 of 378 (58% catch rate)
    2019...21 of 35
    2020...30 of 49 (60% catch rate)

    Moore:
    2018...114 of 160 (77% catch rate)
    2019...29 of 43 (67.4% catch rate)
    2020...35 of 44 (79.5%)
     
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    Sorry, this is a totally ridiculous statement.

    and yes, he is a shadow of his former self. Even Larry would admit that. Even better, I’ll bet even his father and brother would admit that.
     
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    no. I love Larry, but he was running in mud last season.
     
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    Kirk was so good at YAC in college. In fact you could make the case Kirk's highlight tape would probably be just as impressive (although Moore's is because he's 5'7")

    Kirk got faster, but lost his strength. Hope Rondale can maintain strength and speed.
     
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    I don't think strength has anything to do with it. A lot of YAC comes down to the scheme and are you being put into a position to get YAC by the routes you are being asked to run.

    Kirk simply isn't. Had to get YAC on curls and out routes.
     
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    To say he's a shadow of himself or to call him a ghost would imply that he's around 10% of what he once was. He's not as fast as he used to be but he was never that fast to begin with. I would say he's at 80% of what he once was. He can still catch the ball.

     
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    If AJ Green is better than the Ghost of Larry Fitzgerald we should expect him to get more targets, yes?

    There were 33 other targets scattered among other receivers abs backs last year. So 2 additional targets per game and another .5 rushes per game handed to someone.

    We only had 4 rushes by receivers all year last year; people thinking this is suddenly going to become a staple are incorrect.[/QUOTE]

    In today’s NFL a lot of jet sweeps and speed sweeps with WRs, especially out of the shotgun, are tossed into the air and considered a catch. I agree that we didn’t run many of these, but maybe it’s because we didn’t have the right player to do it with. We ran one week 17 against the rams with JoJo Ward and it resulted in a TD. Just something to think about...
     
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    When there are 110 players in the NFL with more receiving yards than Fitzgerald then I would say he is a shadow of his former self.

    When 175 NFL players have more receiving TDs than Fitzgerald then I would say that he is a shadow of his former self.
     
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    No way he’s 80%. And you can interpret my words however you like, but that doesn’t make it my intent. I would say performing even at 60% (likely higher - if Fitz dropped 20% of his speed that would drop him from 4.5 to 5.5 - but let’s be more realistic bc he likely runs faster than 5.5 - even if it’s dropped him to 4.75 or 4.8 that makes him one of the slowest skill positions in the league) of a professional’s average career ability makes them a ghost or a shadow.

    for his career Fitz averaged 1,042 yards per season. 60% would be 617 yards. He had 409 in 13 games last year. Even if we project over 16 games that’s only 503 yards. That’s only 48% production = ghost of Fitz. And a far cry from 80%.
     

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