2020 Draft

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    The thing I like about Hayes is that I think he can play alongside Rubio as a sg and the alongside Booker as a pg.
     
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    This is the type player the Suns need. Let's hope they get lucky in the lottery.
     
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    Consensus mock drafts have Hayes going outside the lottery, so the Suns can have him of they want him. But why would the Suns want him? Hayes is a taller Elie Okobo. No thanks (though I would take him over Nico Mannion, who in my opinion looks to be a poor man's Jimmer Fredette)...
     
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    Tankathon has Killian Hayes going at #5.
     
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    Yeah, I certainly don't get that kind of love for him. There just isn't anything on film that is that jaw dropping outside of his efficiency. I look for something to pop on film and I just don't see anything that would put him in the top 10. He's heavily unpolished. His form is sloppy and odd, actually his game is ugly at times. That doesn't mean he isn't good, it's just hard to imagine him getting away with some of that stuff in the NBA. (Haliburton is too, but he has more twitch to his game and crazy arm length.)

    I do like that he's always looking to set up his teammates.
    I also like his step back move (pretty sure it's 3 steps though).
    Also can't ignore his shooting % from the line and hopefully his last 10 games are an indication of his 3pt%.

    I'm not totally out on Killian. There is definitely value to drafting him. It's just I currently like Ball and Haliburton a lot more, and Maledon (aka Tony Parker II) only a little more. I could see the Suns adding him, but the aforementioned 3 and others like Obi and Okongwu would have to be off the board for me to bite.

    One thing to add: Tankathon has Obi at #11 which is waaaaaaay too low for him. I can't see any prospect knocking him out of the top 5 with Ball, Edwards, Wiseman, and Avdija. They aren't the only ones though. Surprisingly, CBS and Sporting news have him also going after the Suns. I can't imagine us passing on him at #10.
     
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    I personally don’t really like any of the players and believe we are drafting backups. I don’t see Hayes as ever being a solidified starter in this league, but I think he could have a Tomáš Satoranský type impact, which is something that could be useful for the Suns. He’s not my top choice, but I would be fine with drafting him at #10.
     
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    This is a wacky draft where a lot of the lottery selections have more than a +-5 on where they will be picked which is pretty crazy for lottery picks.
     
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    Consensus huh? ESPN has him #10, Bleacher report has him #7, Tankathon has him #5, CBSSports have him #7 and #10, SB Nation has him #5... Once again, stop trying to pass off false information as fact. Just say you don’t like him, that’s cool.
     
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    https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/consensus/

    Hayes at #17 in consensus mock draft posted at nbadraft.net.
     
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    You mean the same consensus that has Okoro at #24 and McDanials at #7? That is just a consensus of people that submit their own mocks to that site. Nbadraft.net is one of the few sites that has Hayes a bit lower (as well as Okoro) which is why it’s viewers would also have him lower. The actual experts in the industry have him much higher, as I pointed out in my above list. Also that is a consensus of all the mocks that people have submitted dating back awhile. The recent consensus has Hayes at #12 (and Okoro up to #10). Once again I don’t even value that since it is just random users who have submitted a mock to the site, but at least it is using recent mocks.
     
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    As yet I'm not overly excited about the draft. If the Suns stay at #10, I'd probably prefer taking an athletic big man and hope he develops. At least he would be depth.
     
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    This draft will be a total crapshoot
     
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    Obi on the Suns would be dangerous.
     
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