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1 – I am very encouraged by LaFleur’s scheme. Obviously you don’t show much in practice games, but it sure looks as QB- and WR friendly as expected. Even if the defense sucks this season, and the team doesn’t win many games, it should be more fun to watch the Cards.

2 – It is simply just sad to see the pass rush from the edge rushers. And even if Josh Sweat actually plays a game for the Cards, what is he going to do with those non-impact players on the opposite side? The other team can basically block him with five guys.

I would use a mid-round pick to buy someone. I have previously suggested Alex Highsmith (Steelers), but I would also consider underachieving mega talents like Kayvon Thibodeaux (Giants) and Nolan Smith (Eagles).

3 – I was so bummed to find out that Beck was not playing. I had looked forward to him hopefully putting more pressure on LaFleur to start him in week one. Some posters here want to pour water on the hype, but don’t mind if you are also in the Beck camp. It is completely fair, understandable and justifiable if you want to dream big, and we certainly deserve it after many years of QB failure. Sure, Brissett and Minshew played well, but I want Beck to start every game this season, and that is certainly not an irrational take.

4 – Karson Shahar making plays both on special teams and defense. That’s how you grab a roster spot.

5 – Maybe a month or so after the draft I started second-guessing my thinking about Rueben Bain and was annoyed that they did not draft him – both because of him and the lack of pass rush. So far, this offseason has not made me change my mind.

However, Love looks like he could become an absolute stud, and I still think that if LaFleur wanted him, I’m good with that. LaFleur can utilize Love as a mismatch for 99% of all NFL defenders.

6 – You should be very encouraged by Isaiah Adams. Probably the best offensive lineman out there.

7 – Did I see Marvin Harrison run a crosser-route? And score? Did you see the same, Mr. Petzing?

8 – It sucks what happened to Bisontis. I did not zero in on him against Carolina, but he has gotten a lot of praise for his performance, so I thought I would do it this time. He was good.

9 – For the second straight week, Blake Gillikin proves that he is ready.

10 – You can’t do anymore to claim a roster spot than Jalen Brooks has done this offseason. You simply can’t.
 

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I don't want Beck to start until he is ready. It will only hurt his development for him to start when he is not ready. It may take six weeks, 12 weeks or 2 years. I don't know, but there is no reason to rush.

We may have 3 NFL quality QBs on the roster. That is hard for me to comprehend.

We have $34M in cap space. Does Monti have a deal for a RT or pass rusher? My hopes are fading.
 

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1 – I am very encouraged by LaFleur’s scheme. Obviously you don’t show much in practice games, but it sure looks as QB- and WR friendly as expected. Even if the defense sucks this season, and the team doesn’t win many games, it should be more fun to watch the Cards.

2 – It is simply just sad to see the pass rush from the edge rushers. And even if Josh Sweat actually plays a game for the Cards, what is he going to do with those non-impact players on the opposite side? The other team can basically block him with five guys.

I would use a mid-round pick to buy someone. I have previously suggested Alex Highsmith (Steelers), but I would also consider underachieving mega talents like Kayvon Thibodeaux (Giants) and Nolan Smith (Eagles).

3 – I was so bummed to find out that Beck was not playing. I had looked forward to him hopefully putting more pressure on LaFleur to start him in week one. Some posters here want to pour water on the hype, but don’t mind if you are also in the Beck camp. It is completely fair, understandable and justifiable if you want to dream big, and we certainly deserve it after many years of QB failure. Sure, Brissett and Minshew played well, but I want Beck to start every game this season, and that is certainly not an irrational take.

4 – Karson Shahar making plays both on special teams and defense. That’s how you grab a roster spot.

5 – Maybe a month or so after the draft I started second-guessing my thinking about Rueben Bain and was annoyed that they did not draft him – both because of him and the lack of pass rush. So far, this offseason has not made me change my mind.

However, Love looks like he could become an absolute stud, and I still think that if LaFleur wanted him, I’m good with that. LaFleur can utilize Love as a mismatch for 99% of all NFL defenders.

6 – You should be very encouraged by Isaiah Adams. Probably the best offensive lineman out there.

7 – Did I see Marvin Harrison run a crosser-route? And score? Did you see the same, Mr. Petzing?

8 – It sucks what happened to Bisontis. I did not zero in on him against Carolina, but he has gotten a lot of praise for his performance, so I thought I would do it this time. He was good.

9 – For the second straight week, Blake Gillikin proves that he is ready.

10 – You can’t do anymore to claim a roster spot than Jalen Brooks has done this offseason. You simply can’t.
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Again, it early. But the biggest change for me is watching the offense operate.

What a change from last year. Everything looks so much smoother, the play calling makes sense and multiple players are getting involved.
 

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I don't want Beck to start until he is ready. It will only hurt his development for him to start when he is not ready. It may take six weeks, 12 weeks or 2 years. I don't know, but there is no reason to rush.

We may have 3 NFL quality QBs on the roster. That is hard for me to comprehend.

We have $34M in cap space. Does Monti have a deal for a RT or pass rusher? My hopes are fading.
The entire point with Beck is the 2027 draft.

if we do in fact have 3 "NFL Caliber" QB;s on the team...good... but we already know that two of those three are "NFL Backup" quality QB's...and we need to know if Beck is a third "Solid backup" or if he can be more than that....and we need to know that before we are in position to draft a guy with the legit talent to be our starter for the next 10-15 years.
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I mean..we dont "have" to..we could sit Beck all year...draft Dante Moore in April,....then down the line have a QB asset to trade away.
But if we know for sure that Beck is the guy...then come april we have more options with the pick...grab a starting RT, or use a top five pick on an all pro caliber pass rusher....
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But as of right now. we have two good backups and a third rounder that shows promise...which means we are drafting a QB in the first round in april.....just seems to make more sense for the team overall to know all their options for a very valuable draft pick.
I don't want Beck to start until he is ready. It will only hurt his development for him to start when he is not ready. It may take six weeks, 12 weeks or 2 years. I don't know, but there is no reason to rush.

We may have 3 NFL quality QBs on the roster. That is hard for me to comprehend.

We have $34M in cap space. Does Monti have a deal for a RT or pass rusher? My hopes are fading.
 

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I really think the Beck hype needs to come down a few notches now that we have seen every QB on the roster fair extremely well in this offense.

Also Jacoby is going to be far better going against real defenses than Beck. Don't get me wrong I want him to get some starts this year, but I don't think he should start on day 1.
 

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I really think the Beck hype needs to come down a few notches now that we have seen every QB on the roster fair extremely well in this offense.

Also Jacoby is going to be far better going against real defenses than Beck. Don't get me wrong I want him to get some starts this year, but I don't think he should start on day 1.
agree... I been driving the Beck bandwagone all year.
But if dude got dropped into a game against the Niners starting defense, after they spent a week game planning for him...they would hurt his feelings.
 

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ALL the QB’s have looked good.

The offensive line seems to be doing well. Knock on wood.

If the O line is actually decent; and the Suns play defense . . . well

the world has turned upside down.
 

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ALL the QB’s have looked good.

The offensive line seems to be doing well. Knock on wood.

If the O line is actually decent; and the Suns play defense . . . well

the world has turned upside down.
The oline looks good in pass protection, because the offense is making them look good for the most part.

But they haven't been that great run blocking.
 

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Worth noting that our offense didn't look this good in a single preseason game last year.

What that means for the regular season is hard to say for sure, but I think no matter who the QB is our offense will look at least solid.
 

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Great points. I like Beck but am fine waiting for him to start at some point this season. Cardinals have to go after some pass rush help. Can’t go into regular season with this mess.
 

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I don't want Beck to start until he is ready. It will only hurt his development for him to start when he is not ready. It may take six weeks, 12 weeks or 2 years. I don't know, but there is no reason to rush.

We may have 3 NFL quality QBs on the roster. That is hard for me to comprehend.

We have $34M in cap space. Does Monti have a deal for a RT or pass rusher? My hopes are fading.
Aren't there a few guys available that would help us? What about Kevin Zeitler, Cam Robinson, or Taylor Decker for the OL. Or Joey Bosa or bring back Haason Reddick. Some of these guys are older but experienced and have played well in their careers. Becton is young and a former 1st rounder but just hasn't taken off yet. Is it the system or is it him?
 

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Aren't there a few guys available that would help us? What about Kevin Zeitler, Cam Robinson, or Taylor Decker for the OL. Or Joey Bosa or bring back Haason Reddick. Some of these guys are older but experienced and have played well in their careers. Becton is young and a former 1st rounder but just hasn't taken off yet. Is it the system or is it him?
need to sign a guard to replace Bisontis.
 

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Great points. I like Beck but am fine waiting for him to start at some point this season. Cardinals have to go after some pass rush help. Can’t go into regular season with this mess.
An objective view would say that we have to see Beck a second time against and with second tier guys. Not three's and four's.
 

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1 – I am very encouraged by LaFleur’s scheme. Obviously you don’t show much in practice games, but it sure looks as QB- and WR friendly as expected. Even if the defense sucks this season, and the team doesn’t win many games, it should be more fun to watch the Cards.

2 – It is simply just sad to see the pass rush from the edge rushers. And even if Josh Sweat actually plays a game for the Cards, what is he going to do with those non-impact players on the opposite side? The other team can basically block him with five guys.

I would use a mid-round pick to buy someone. I have previously suggested Alex Highsmith (Steelers), but I would also consider underachieving mega talents like Kayvon Thibodeaux (Giants) and Nolan Smith (Eagles).

3 – I was so bummed to find out that Beck was not playing. I had looked forward to him hopefully putting more pressure on LaFleur to start him in week one. Some posters here want to pour water on the hype, but don’t mind if you are also in the Beck camp. It is completely fair, understandable and justifiable if you want to dream big, and we certainly deserve it after many years of QB failure. Sure, Brissett and Minshew played well, but I want Beck to start every game this season, and that is certainly not an irrational take.

4 – Karson Shahar making plays both on special teams and defense. That’s how you grab a roster spot.

5 – Maybe a month or so after the draft I started second-guessing my thinking about Rueben Bain and was annoyed that they did not draft him – both because of him and the lack of pass rush. So far, this offseason has not made me change my mind.

However, Love looks like he could become an absolute stud, and I still think that if LaFleur wanted him, I’m good with that. LaFleur can utilize Love as a mismatch for 99% of all NFL defenders.

6 – You should be very encouraged by Isaiah Adams. Probably the best offensive lineman out there.

7 – Did I see Marvin Harrison run a crosser-route? And score? Did you see the same, Mr. Petzing?

8 – It sucks what happened to Bisontis. I did not zero in on him against Carolina, but he has gotten a lot of praise for his performance, so I thought I would do it this time. He was good.

9 – For the second straight week, Blake Gillikin proves that he is ready.

10 – You can’t do anymore to claim a roster spot than Jalen Brooks has done this offseason. You simply can’t.
10. Jalen Brooks looks solid, he will claim a roster spot I'm sure of it.
 
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I don't want Beck to start until he is ready. It will only hurt his development for him to start when he is not ready.
I understand that, GC, but why would he not be ready? He is certainly experienced enough, has the qualities to flourish in LaFleur’s scheme, and supposedly has a solid understanding of what to do in the system. I don’t see why he needs to sit. He is not your usual rookie.

It may take six weeks, 12 weeks or 2 years. I don't know, but there is no reason to rush.
I don’t agree with that. I would not consider it rushing, but even if you do, I think there is absolutely a reason to do that, since they need to know if he is the future, or if they need to target a quarterback next year.
 
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It’s actually an insane take
I have wasted too much time talking to you about Beck. I understand that you have already decided your stand, and are completely reluctant to change that, no matter if he leads them to the Super Bowl. It is what it is, and you do you. I’m out.
 
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I really think the Beck hype needs to come down a few notches now that we have seen every QB on the roster fair extremely well in this offense.
That is absolutely a fair point, Proximo.
 
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