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1 – There was one player – maybe two if you include Reese – with obvious superstar potential in this draft, and Cards got him. Complain about that, haters.

2 – The Cards need finishers. Players that can close out games. Before it completely went off the rails last season, they lost 5 games in a row with a combined 13 points, and they could have won several of them if they could close out games. Love can do that.

3 – Who gives a flying ***k about the financial side of this? The salary cap is completely, utterly irrelevant, and it’s not your money.

4 – A side benefit of the pick is that it immediately makes life easier for whoever is the quarterback.

5 – I mentioned it in another thread yesterday; I think it is okay to just be a fan and hope for more exciting games. No, picking a runningback that high is not the “right” pick in terms of team construction, but it immediately makes the team more exciting to watch. It’s not like they are contending for any title next season anyway, so I think it is okay to just ask for more entertainment.

6 – Someone said yesterday that Love would not have been a top ten-pick last year. I mean, I don’t know what to do with wild perspectives like that. There is not a single doubt that NFL teams would not let a playmaker like him slip.

7 – Let’s calm down with all the gloom-and-doom prophecies about how Love will get 0 yards behind their offensive line. It is definitely not a worse unit than the one that blocked for James Connor when he flourished a couple of years ago (several of the players are actually the same).

8 – This was 100% a Michael Bidwill-pick, but that doesn’t mean it is not good for Ossenfort too. Both things can be true. Ossenfort are responsible for assembling the most boring team in the NFL. He needs to change that.

9 – Jeremyiah Love, Tre McBride, Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson. Most NFL teams would take that skill position-group in a heartbeat.

10 – Mike LaFleur was brought in to fix the offense. So it is good business to support him in that.
 

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Really happy with the Love pick. I think it was down to him and Bailey. When Jets took Bailey I was sure Love was the pick. They need a playmaker on offense and they got it. Was hoping they would trade back into the first rd for either Simpson or oline but then realized they only had 7 picks so not a lot to work with trade wise, Hopefully they use today to fix some more holes.
 
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1 – There was one player – maybe two if you include Reese – with obvious superstar potential in this draft, and Cards got him. Complain about that, haters.

2 – The Cards need finishers. Players that can close out games. Before it completely went off the rails last season, they lost 5 games in a row with a combined 13 points, and they could have won several of them if they could close out games. Love can do that.

3 – Who gives a flying ***k about the financial side of this? The salary cap is completely, utterly irrelevant, and it’s not your money.

4 – A side benefit of the pick is that it immediately makes life easier for whoever is the quarterback.

5 – I mentioned it in another thread yesterday; I think it is okay to just be a fan and hope for more exciting games. No, picking a runningback that high is not the “right” pick in terms of team construction, but it immediately makes the team more exciting to watch. It’s not like they are contending for any title next season anyway, so I think it is okay to just ask for more entertainment.

6 – Someone said yesterday that Love would not have been a top ten-pick last year. I mean, I don’t know what to do with wild perspectives like that. There is not a single doubt that NFL teams would not let a playmaker like him slip.

7 – Let’s calm down with all the gloom-and-doom prophecies about how Love will get 0 yards behind their offensive line. It is definitely not a worse unit than the one that blocked for James Connor when he flourished a couple of years ago (several of the players are actually the same).

8 – This was 100% a Michael Bidwill-pick, but that doesn’t mean it is not good for Ossenfort too. Both things can be true. Ossenfort are responsible for assembling the most boring team in the NFL. He needs to change that.

9 – Jeremyiah Love, Tre McBride, Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson. Most NFL teams would take that skill position-group in a heartbeat.

10 – Mike LaFleur was brought in to fix the offense. So it is good business to support him in that.
Top post mate, couldn't have put it better
 

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1 – There was one player – maybe two if you include Reese – with obvious superstar potential in this draft, and Cards got him. Complain about that, haters.

2 – The Cards need finishers. Players that can close out games. Before it completely went off the rails last season, they lost 5 games in a row with a combined 13 points, and they could have won several of them if they could close out games. Love can do that.

3 – Who gives a flying ***k about the financial side of this? The salary cap is completely, utterly irrelevant, and it’s not your money.

4 – A side benefit of the pick is that it immediately makes life easier for whoever is the quarterback.

5 – I mentioned it in another thread yesterday; I think it is okay to just be a fan and hope for more exciting games. No, picking a runningback that high is not the “right” pick in terms of team construction, but it immediately makes the team more exciting to watch. It’s not like they are contending for any title next season anyway, so I think it is okay to just ask for more entertainment.

6 – Someone said yesterday that Love would not have been a top ten-pick last year. I mean, I don’t know what to do with wild perspectives like that. There is not a single doubt that NFL teams would not let a playmaker like him slip.

7 – Let’s calm down with all the gloom-and-doom prophecies about how Love will get 0 yards behind their offensive line. It is definitely not a worse unit than the one that blocked for James Connor when he flourished a couple of years ago (several of the players are actually the same).

8 – This was 100% a Michael Bidwill-pick, but that doesn’t mean it is not good for Ossenfort too. Both things can be true. Ossenfort are responsible for assembling the most boring team in the NFL. He needs to change that.

9 – Jeremyiah Love, Tre McBride, Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson. Most NFL teams would take that skill position-group in a heartbeat.

10 – Mike LaFleur was brought in to fix the offense. So it is good business to support him in that.
Wow; do we disagree!
1 I don’t hate! I take Reese; both are gambles, Reese fits the roster better
3 Ignoring a $50 mil cap hit is unrealistic, especially at an injury risk position
4 If they had a real one. Let’s see if RPOs work better with no holes and a QB who can’t run.
5 Agree for a while
6 McCaffrey went 8; Walker went 41st, both injured a lot.
7 Different type of runners. Look at highlights, Love is about vision. How many games did Conner miss? Love will have to break a lot of tackles; scary!
8 This is supposed to be about winning. That’s the most entertaining thing.
9 With a real QB they would, not without one. Not to mention the Oline.
10 I like MFL, I hope this works.
 
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3 Ignoring a $50 mil cap hit is unrealistic, especially at an injury risk position
That is not how the salary cap works. But sure it would be.

8 This is supposed to be about winning. That’s the most entertaining thing.
Sure, and he can help them win games. But if you mean competing for championships, how long are you willing to wait? Because they have not been even close to competitive for many years, and I don’t think it is obvious that they will step on Rams, Niners, and Seahawks anytime soon.
 

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This is a good thread to dump in my theory that we are about to enter very different era, everything hinges on how our new coaching staff manages things. The AI era has arrived, it's going to take over football but not in how people think. It's basically money ball on steroids, it sees players as parts of overall systems.

It's assembling pieces like AI plays chess, which is impossible for real players to beat anymore, because it thinks about it differently. It's using data from every aspect of the game to build strategies others won't see at first.

This isn't going to replace great coaching but you will not be able to beat a great coach using this stuff is how I see it. It still needs real human evaluation of players but it's just a different ask, it's asking you who's this guy I'm talking about, you just give it that guy and if you do, then it all works better than you pictured it working.

I expect it to be clunky at first and probably made fun of but only for about a year or so then the nerds will start winning a lot of games.
 

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That is not how the salary cap works. But sure it would be.


Sure, and he can help them win games. But if you mean competing for championships, how long are you willing to wait? Because they have not been even close to competitive for many years, and I don’t think it is obvious that they will step on Rams, Niners, and Seahawks anytime soon.
$50.5 mil is fully guaranteed. I know $36 mil direct to cap
 

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2– The Cards need finishers. Players that can close out games. Before it completely went off the rails last season, they lost 5 games in a row with a combined 13 points, and they could have won several of them if they could close out games. Love can do that.
If he doesn't drop the ball before crossing the goal line, that will already be a positive step!
 
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$50.5 mil is fully guaranteed. I know $36 mil direct to cap
The way it technically works is that the signing bonus (the 50.5, give or take) will be prorated over the life of the contract (in this case, four years). They do it for accounting purposes. He will have a cap hit of around 9 million as a rookie.
 

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I know and it grows to $16 mil by 2029. $9 mil is the same as Barkley. We can see how they compare going forward.
 
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