“I’d take Ruggs”

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  1. kerouac9

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    We have a bunch of slot guys; we need a legit outside receiver to open up the middle of the field. Andy Isabella was also fast, but opponents just jammed him at the LOS and passed him off to a safety when he was out of the play.

    I feel like Ruggs is John Ross. :shrug: Okay if you have A.J. Green, but...
     
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    Ruggs probably played outside more than Jeudy.
     
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    Yeah but speculating someone could run that much faster if they focused on track IMO is not the same as saying they have Olympic speed, which to me means you could run in the Olympics. Coleman ran a 9.86 in college, he broke the NCAA record. He ran a 10.2 something in HS, he's certainly getting better as he gets older but he's on another level fast than Ruggs.

    I have no idea how fast Ruggs could be if he focused on track but the track he did run, his times were nowhere near Olympic trials qualifying let alone actually running in the Olympics.

    But to say if he stuck with it he could easily compete at the Olympic Trials is just hard to agree with. Schwartz for example is running track at Auburn too, he's skipped offseason football every year to do it. He ran a 10.09 in HS, and yet he still has not run an Olympic trials qualifying time and he is right there. Ruggs personal best was 10.52 to get to 10.04 that's a huge jump in track.

    I just think at times announcers exaggerate that stuff, when you actually see how fast actual Olympic level sprinters are it's stunning. When Bolt set the world record in 09 they estimated between the 60 and 90 meter mark he was going almost 28mph!

    Nothing against Ruggs he's insanely fast for a football player, but the Olympic guys are just unreal. The vast majority of them have the same issue, to get that fast you have to do very specific speed training and they all tend to have hamstring problems as a result. Schwartz has had hamstring problems his whole college football career because of sprint training.
     
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    Fair enough. I didn't come away form this film feeling very impressed. He struggled to get off the press on the outside, and 2 of his big receptions came out of the slot. Andy Isabella played a lot on the outside at UMass.

    I don't think we need another receiver, I think we need a foundational receiver who can dictate coverages.
     
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    A lot for me is going to come down to combine testing because I have a tough time comparing speed on tape because of the discrepancy in talent between conferences.

    Guys I am really interested in...

    Denzel Mims
    Bryan Edwards
    Gabriel Davis
    Isaiah Hodgins
    Justin Jefferson
    Van Jefferson
    Donovan Peoples-Jones
    Michael Pittman
    Jalen Raegor
     
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    As you can tell, I think we need more outside size at WR.

    We have Fitz (who plays inside), Hakeem Butler and a bunch of sub 6' dudes.
     
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    Correct, we definitely aren’t there yet! Hopefully that changes soon
     
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    Sure he's going to say Ruggs because he wants other teams to take him so he has his pick of the top two :)
     
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    +1 billion
     
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    I think People-Jones is going to be a very good Wr in the Nfl.
     
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    Me too, but I really want to see him run a sub 4.5. I think he can come in and contribute day 1 with his size and what I think his speed will be.
     
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    But not in the context of the NFL and the need for him to be a consistent number one on not only deep passes, you have a problem. Now if we did not have a slot guy, sure but that is not the objective... we need a bad ass who can secure the clutch balls in traffic when you need those seven yards
     
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    We need a young one, we have one in Larry but he's not young anymore.

    I still think we need someone who can actually get open, consistently, without needing a ton of scheme to do so, which is why I love Jeudy. I have no issue with Kliff's ability to scheme guys open he did it all year, but you can't do it consistently, its just not that easy to do even with a QB who can run. That's where a "always open" WR comes into play, sometimes you just need someone who can just flat out beat his man and get open, we don't really have that.
     
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    Jeudy is my favorite too :raccoon:
     
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