Cardinals Exec Suspended for Violating Gambling Policy

[602 Native]

What’s mind blowing is that we have drafted poorly for a decade and this guy was still employed.

He was there for 13 years.

Well done President Hillbilly.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Fans are desperate for an ownership change... #bidwill

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[kerouac9]

Fans are desperate for an ownership change... #bidwill

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303 followers. How do you find these guys?

 

[Yuma]

Fans are desperate for an ownership change... #bidwill

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They were desperate BEFORE the team moved to AZ. People back then didn't want the Cards because of Bill Bidwill. This has been a running theme since before they even moved here.

FWIW, I am one of the few that think Michael's trying. It's just bad decisions, bad luck, and not having deep pockets that is holding him back. You don't switch out coaches this many times if you aren't desperate. Michael needs a GREAT GM. Not a good one. A great one. An Ozzie Newsome, John Lynch, etc. Someone that can build a franchise and a culture from the ground up. If Bill is going to ever spend his money excessively, he needs to get this one guy, with a proven track record, and hand over the keys to him. Cardinals need a rebranding, new culture, etc. They need excitement. When is the last time anyone felt excited, really excited about the Cards? Kurt Warner's era?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

They were desperate BEFORE the team moved to AZ. People back then didn't want the Cards because of Bill Bidwill. This has been a running theme since before they even moved here.

FWIW, I am one of the few that think Michael's trying. It's just bad decisions, bad luck, and not having deep pockets that is holding him back. You don't switch out coaches this many times if you aren't desperate. Michael needs a GREAT GM. Not a good one. A great one. An Ozzie Newsome, John Lynch, etc. Someone that can build a franchise and a culture from the ground up. If Bill is going to ever spend his money excessively, he needs to get this one guy, with a proven track record, and hand over the keys to him. Cardinals need a rebranding, new culture, etc. They need excitement. When is the last time anyone felt excited, really excited about the Cards? Kurt Warner's era?

He has needed to step back for a long time now. Step back and let true football people run the football operations. These family run teams usually have someone in the family that feels they are a football person just because they have been around the team most of their life. There's a big difference.

 

[Yuma]

He has needed to step back for a long time now. Step back and let true football people run the football operations. These family run teams usually have someone in the family that feels they are a football person just because they have been around the team most of their life. There's a big difference.

You can have a family team. The Chargers have family all over the front office. In like community relations, business opportunities, etc. They go out and get a real GM, and Coach, though. They don't do director of scouting, etc. They stick to Charger Charities, etc. That's how you do a family run NFL team. You let the football guys do the football things.

The Cardinals need someone that can come in, tear down what needs to be torn down, keep anything that is good, and start fresh. The fans deserve a new start in AZ. Look at the Suns, they finally seem to have stumbled onto a decent GM. They are "aligning" the team to a new culture. The Diamondbacks have always had a killer marketing team. They have some of the most innovative foods that keep people coming out to the ball park. If Michael just looks around in Phoenix itself, there's examples of how he can change the Cards.

 

[gimpy]

I'm sorry, I'm confused. Who's this Bill you keep talking about?

 

[Yuma]

I'm sorry, I'm confused. Who's this Bill you keep talking about?

Sorry, was talking about Bill in an earlier post.

William Vogel Bidwill was an American businessman and the owner of the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League. Bill had co-owned the team from 1962 for ten seasons with his brother Charles Jr. and had been sole owner from 1972 until his death in 2019. The team has been owned by the Bidwill family since 1932.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

303 followers. How do you find these guys?

well it's called an algorithm that tailors content to your likes and clicks. He doesn't find them, grok does

 

[Crimson Warrior]

They were desperate BEFORE the team moved to AZ. People back then didn't want the Cards because of Bill Bidwill. This has been a running theme since before they even moved here.

FWIW, I am one of the few that think Michael's trying. It's just bad decisions, bad luck, and not having deep pockets that is holding him back. You don't switch out coaches this many times if you aren't desperate. Michael needs a GREAT GM. Not a good one. A great one. An Ozzie Newsome, John Lynch, etc. Someone that can build a franchise and a culture from the ground up. If Bill is going to ever spend his money excessively, he needs to get this one guy, with a proven track record, and hand over the keys to him. Cardinals need a rebranding, new culture, etc. They need excitement. When is the last time anyone felt excited, really excited about the Cards? Kurt Warner's era?

There’s something rotten in Denmark Yuma.

Michael was okay for a minute, but it’s impossible for a franchise to be this bad for this long, to fail so consistently on every front, and for the owner to be competent in his role.

It’s not possible.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

There’s something rotten in Denmark Yuma.

Michael was okay for a minute, but it’s impossible for a franchise to be this bad for this long, to fail so consistently on every front, and for the owner to be competent in his role.

It’s not possible.

And yet here we are, year after year

 

[oaken1]

This doesn't surprise me one bit. Before there was gambling, I was privy to many picks prior to them being made.
That's no longer the case, obviously, and me and BIL even talked about it and how it could happen. He said no chance he'd risk his career on doing something like that and that they'd likely catch on to it pretty quickly.

Teams pretty much know who's going to be there and when. This guy made a $25 parlay on the Cards first 5 picks. He knew those guys were going to be there and selected.

makes you wonder...if maybe...
just maybe.....
this guy knew he had enough influence over Monti to force the picks at those points...before he placed the bet.
Because nailing five,...hell, even when you are the guy making the picks,...is nearly impossible....
That basically means you have to know exactly who 31 other teams ARE NOT going to pick for 5 rounds.
I could see a guy getting...hmmm,...2 rounds...maybe 3 with a huge stroke of luck or an insanely defined draft class.... but 5??? Just no way....that is way beyond luck or the laws of chance....

but if you got influence, and can "sell" a few guys to get picked a round early...
the worst part about that entire line of thinking??? Means we got 4 guys this year whom we most likely over drafted...maybe not by huge amounts... but at least a half round I would guess

oh well.....the draft has always forkin been " woulda, coulda, shoulda" for the cardinals fans anyway...so fork it

 

[oaken1]

Probably not. The Cardinals will somehow exceed expectations and win 4 games instead of 2 and Bidwill will give him a 5 year extension.

I know I only have 10, 747 followers on my social media... but I fully expect the Cardinals to exceed a .500 record in the 2026 season.

I could explain the football reasons. But nobody is interested in hearing that...so I will name the "Cardinal" reason we will exceed .500

Because we desparately need a damn quarterback. The 2027 draft is expected to be the best Quarterback class in the past five years, as well as the next three years....
....and if we dont pick in the top 10 we wont get the quarterback we need....we will get the "surprise slide" quarterback. everyone will tout how forrtunate we were that the guy slid...much like Aaron Rodgers did on his draft night. They will spend the off season predicting glory and finally a rise from the muck of ineptitude.....
and the guy will go 9-8.....everyone will be ecstatic....
year two...he will be 5-2...and get hit late...take an injury and spend six weeks on IR.....
The Cardinal program kicks into operation...and after we sign him to a 5 year 300million dollar contract...the questions...why are we losing....whats it take to get him over the hump.....

and the cycle begins again...

 

[oaken1]

There’s something rotten in Denmark Yuma.

Michael was okay for a minute, but it’s impossible for a franchise to be this bad for this long, to fail so consistently on every front, and for the owner to be competent in his role.

It’s not possible.

for those first few years Mike really was different from Dollar Bill... but the past ten years...the entire feel around the team is different... I used to believe Mike really wanted to win..and just hit hard luck and compounded it with a few bad decisions...
but now??
Maybe the Keim thing hurt him somehow?? I mean, he and steve were buddies right?? But it just doesnt feel like Mike gives one single crap about winning games...

in all honesty?? Screw it... hire Keim back

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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15K followers, by the way. LOL

 

[CFLredzoned]

makes you wonder...if maybe...
just maybe.....
this guy knew he had enough influence over Monti to force the picks at those points...before he placed the bet.
Because nailing five,...hell, even when you are the guy making the picks,...is nearly impossible....
That basically means you have to know exactly who 31 other teams ARE NOT going to pick for 5 rounds.
I could see a guy getting...hmmm,...2 rounds...maybe 3 with a huge stroke of luck or an insanely defined draft class.... but 5??? Just no way....that is way beyond luck or the laws of chance....

but if you got influence, and can "sell" a few guys to get picked a round early...
the worst part about that entire line of thinking??? Means we got 4 guys this year whom we most likely over drafted...maybe not by huge amounts... but at least a half round I would guess

oh well.....the draft has always forkin been " woulda, coulda, shoulda" for the cardinals fans anyway...so fork it

I'm actually buying this. It's the only thing that makes this possible. And he was the director of college scouting. Not some low level scout. And there was $750,000 at stake. This guy doesn't need jail. He needs to be dragged through downtown Scottsdale Red Dead Redemption style. And Monti has to get fired. How could he survive this? This is big. We haven't even heard from Florio yet. I'm sure he hasn't slept since the news hit.

 

[football karma]

makes you wonder...if maybe...
just maybe.....
this guy knew he had enough influence over Monti to force the picks at those points...before he placed the bet.
Because nailing five,...hell, even when you are the guy making the picks,...is nearly impossible....
That basically means you have to know exactly who 31 other teams ARE NOT going to pick for 5 rounds.
I could see a guy getting...hmmm,...2 rounds...maybe 3 with a huge stroke of luck or an insanely defined draft class.... but 5??? Just no way....that is way beyond luck or the laws of chance....

but if you got influence, and can "sell" a few guys to get picked a round early...
the worst part about that entire line of thinking??? Means we got 4 guys this year whom we most likely over drafted...maybe not by huge amounts... but at least a half round I would guess

oh well.....the draft has always forkin been " woulda, coulda, shoulda" for the cardinals fans anyway...so fork it

yes, but

while it was noted he made a $25 parlay that paid off

what it doesnt say is that he could have made 3/5/10 $25 parlays to cover a variety of options

given the payoff -- making 100 bets is possible

 

[phillycard]

This isn't a Cardinals Organization problem. Mark my words, you can't have gambling sites plastered all over sports stadiums, commercials, billboards, etc. without it finally taking a hold of someone. It's going to happen more frequently! Vegas and Atlantic City are there for good reason and some mega billionaires will continue to score big. It is why Goddell should have never slept with the gambling sites.

Agreed 100% but how dumb to you have to be to get caught though? My lord. If you have a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend, you shouldn't be getting busted. Pure stupidity.

 

[phillycard]

This is like begging to get caught too, insane.

Okay??!!!

 

[Cardinal88]

Maybe there was only one winner who was dumb enough to correctly pick the Cardinals first 5 picks. Easy to trace it back to the "WON" winner.

 

[PDXChris]

He is appealing

Caspino said that the gambling activity was Gold's wife making $10 weekly bets with a group of high school friends on parlays and that Gold was not involved. He also said that Gold could not have divulged the Cardinals draft picks because he didn't know who they were picking and that only team owner Michael Bidwill and general manager Monti Ossenfort did.
Caspino said he doesn't believe the league's case against Gold is strong.
The NFL on Friday said that the Cardinals fully cooperated with the investigation and that the league has seen no indication that any other member of the organization, coach or player was aware of or involved in the activity. The league also said there was no indication that any play or game was affected by the activity

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[CardsFan88]

Hear me out. Maybe we should hire him to be our GM. I mean, he hit on 5 draft picks in a row in one draft. Monti hasn't hit on five draft picks in four drafts.

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[some dumb guy]

He is appealing

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What's his wife doing with a bunch of high school friends making bets? Gold has been there 13 years. I would hope that makes Mr Gold at least over 36. How old is his gambling wife?

 

[kerouac9]

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this is bad. Of course you’re gonna get caught if you win this much on a $25 parlay

@TJ dammit this is a satire account.

CAN PEOPLE PLEASE CHECK BEFORE POSTING FAKE NEWS?!?????

I told my dad about this on our family FaceTime call.

 

[Zalixar]

@TJ dammit this is a satire account.

CAN PEOPLE PLEASE CHECK BEFORE POSTING FAKE NEWS?!?????

I told my dad about this on our family FaceTime call.

Look on the bright side, we can ride this wave all the way to the HOF game. It's an opportunity to remind people the Cardinals exist.

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