Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

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Because K1 never quit on anything.

That is forum hyperbole. K1 was invited to Micheal Wilson’s wedding just weeks ago.

Total fan fiction.
Bro, he quit on the play posted on this very page. He quit in the playoff game and sulked on the bench while his teammates supported their injured teammate. He quit...ad nauseum.
 

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"A Line Arguably worse" Ok, i need what youre smokin. K1 made the line look way better than it was the entire time due to his ability to escape. JB would be crushed by this line just like Brisket.

The argument is how would Burrow do here and it won't be any different.

This team is a dumpster fire and we are seeing it in real time again.
So you think if you put Joe Burrow on this team he wouldn't be any better than KM? Bwhahahahahahaha! Good thing your avatar is a clown, because this is a clown take!
 

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So you think if you put Joe Burrow on this team he wouldn't be any better than KM? Bwhahahahahahaha! Good thing your avatar is a clown, because this is a clown take!
First, Burrow would have no problem seeing OVER his offensive line which opens up the field. He can see plays unfold. See when players are open, etc.
 

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Should want to, yes. That's the hope. A great QB can excel and lead a team to playoff success with a merely good or even average amount of talent around him.

Name those QBs who aren't bound for the Hall of Fame or close to it.

P.S. There are more than a few average QBs who made it to and even won Super Bowls.
 
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So you think if you put Joe Burrow on this team he wouldn't be any better than KM? Bwhahahahahahaha! Good thing your avatar is a clown, because this is a clown take!
He would have a similar outcome in terms of success yes.

What makes you think the Cards are any better than the Bengals? (This should be good)
 

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He would have a similar outcome in terms of success yes.

What makes you think the Cards are any better than the Bengals? (This should be good)
Your mistake is asking why I think the Cards are better. Burrow is clearly better than KM. You put a real QB in this offense and it does well. The D would still keep the team from doing much, but it's not unrealistic to expect that Burrow would lead this team to the playoffs. I bet he wouldn't circle twice in the backfield and choke up a sad pass attempt even once either.
 
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Your mistake is asking why I think the Cards are better. Burrow is clearly better than KM. You put a real QB in this offense and it does well. The D would still keep the team from doing much, but it's not unrealistic to expect that Burrow would lead this team to the playoffs. I bet he wouldn't circle twice in the backfield and choke up a sad pass attempt even once either.
Burrow can't lift the Bengals to being a .500 team. The Bengals beat the breaks off us last season.

You are delusional in thinkinng he is some miracle worker.
He is not.
 

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Burrow can't lift the Bengals to being a .500 team. The Bengals beat the breaks off us last season.

You are delusional in thinkinng he is some miracle worker.
He is not.
Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow has a career regular-season win-loss record of 43-33-1 and a playoff record of 5-2.

I mean...
 

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Burrow can't lift the Bengals to being a .500 team. The Bengals beat the breaks off us last season.

You are delusional in thinkinng he is some miracle worker.
He is not.

He's had over .500 record every year he's played, with 1 SB appearance, beating Chiefs, and an AFC Championship loss to the Chiefs, by 3 points.

Even MVP Lamar and Allen couldn't do (beating Chiefs in playoffs, let alone SB appearance) with better teams.

In the immortal words of Chris Berman, C'mon man. These takes are wild, coupled with the incessant fandom of Kyler, that's why you get tons of pushback. Come down to Earth, the view is great!
 
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He's had over .500 record every year he's played, with 1 SB appearance, beating Chiefs, and an AFC Championship loss to the Chiefs, by 3 points.

Even MVP Lamar and Allen couldn't do (beating Chiefs in playoffs, let alone SB appearance) with better teams.

In the immortal words of Chris Berman, C'mon man. These takes are wild, coupled with the incessant fandom of Kyler, that's why you get tons of pushback. Come down to Earth, the view is great!
No one is saying K1 is better than Burrow.

I am saying that on the Cards Burrow is not going to do any better.

This is a broken franchise and no QB is going to have sustained success here and that is not up for debate.
 

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No one is saying K1 is better than Burrow.

I am saying that on the Cards Burrow is not going to do any better.

This is a broken franchise and no QB is going to have sustained success here and that is not up for debate.

I mean, he could? Historically bad franchise, inept owner, terrible oline, and not a great team. All points that have been made that Kyler couldn't succeed.

My response was direct that Joe couldn't lift Bengals to .500 or not miracle worker. See above, and MVP's not named Mahomes couldn't ever do.
 
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I mean, he could? Historically bad franchise, inept owner, terrible oline, and not a great team. All points that have been made that Kyler couldn't succeed.

My response was direct that Joe couldn't lift Bengals to .500 or not miracle worker. See above, and MVP's not named Mahomes couldn't ever do.
The Bengals were 6-11 last year and infinitely better than us. (Again they smoked us)

The Bengals division is nowhere near as good as ours.

We would still not win a single division game probably with him on this team.

You people think QBs can just magically win games without having pieces around them to get it done.
 

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The Bengals were 6-11 last year and infinitely better than us. (Again they smoked us)

The Bengals division is nowhere near as good as ours.

We would still not win a single division game probably with him on this team.

You people think QBs can just magically win games without having pieces around them to get it done.

Joe Burrow was 5-3. It means you haven't watched or followed much, if at all. Their D is atrocious.

So unless you want to count Jacoby's 11 losses last year on Kyler, sure.

We do have a hard division, yes. Ravens are good and Steelers were still playoff team. He also has the AFC gauntlet. I wouldn’t want to face Mahomes.
 
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No one is saying K1 is better than Burrow.

I am saying that on the Cards Burrow is not going to do any better.

This is a broken franchise and no QB is going to have sustained success here and that is not up for debate.
A much better QB than KM isn't going to do any better than KM? Do you even read what you type?
 

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You realize K1 plays the game way different than Burrow?

They both have their pluses and minuses.
quitter murray quits while burrows refuses to sit - quitter murray runs for his life while burrows takes the hit

burrows makes his team relevant - murray makes jj mccarthy relevant

20+ nfl teams would be all over burrows if he made it to free agency - offering him the world and everything in it - a new record would have been set with his contract

meanwhile minnesota didn't even send the company jet - lol they sent a text tho - "sure - come through if you're in minny"
 

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Well, let's set the bar at 6 foot and take a look at those pluses and minuses...;)
This just hit me, Murry is 5'9" and Burrows is 6'4"...that doesn't really seem like a big difference. But, I'm 6 feet tall and standing next to someone that's 6'7" is a HUGE difference.

Take your individual height and imagine playing football but every other player is 3-8 inches taller....holy crap
 
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Murray will be handed the job of Vikings qb like usual, but it won't be long before McCarthy wins that job quickly and won't look back. I believe JJ can be coached up, and Kyler Murray does not want to get hit. The pass rushers will catch on quickly.
 
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