2026 Arizona Off Season Thread

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The #AZCardinals signed safety Isaiah Oliver and released kicker Joshua Karty.
This may be a cautionary notice about how well the transition is going to DTD.
 

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This may be a cautionary notice about how well the transition is going to DTD.
Doubtful Harry we have a resident long time board member saying that zero work of any kind gets done during OTAs voluntary or mandatory and they really don’t matter. In fact there really is no need for any vet player to really
Even participate. So it’s highly doubtful that they were able to determine this from a buncha shorts practices that mean absolutely nothing. Right?
 

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Doubtful Harry we have a resident long time board member saying that zero work of any kind gets done during OTAs voluntary or mandatory and they really don’t matter. In fact there really is no need for any vet player to really
Even participate. So it’s highly doubtful that they were able to determine this from a buncha shorts practices that mean absolutely nothing. Right?
well, dude didnt have an quick twitch when he raised his hand to ask a question...no snap at all..
we really need guys to be more explosive
 

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well, dude didnt have an quick twitch when he raised his hand to ask a question...no snap at all..
we really need guys to be more explosive
Have any of you ever had to drive a van intended for a soccer mom? Brat kids piled up in a drive through at dairy Queen? A tattooed man driving and pumping fuel of ibuprofen? Lol

It's about team. And everyone even parents to Co team bs. This is no stranger to them it's about being together man
 

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I mean a QB who throws an INT in 70 passing attempts is what passer rating is meant to measure.

I don’t really trust DB charting data in general (you won’t find me citing it recently good or bad), but 3 INTs in 36 targets (which is around what Burke had) isn’t sustainable or probably predictive.

Garrett Williams’ Passer Rating Allowed went from the mid-70s when he was a part-time player to over 100 when he was playing full-time. I don’t think he suddenly became bad; I think the stat is unreliable.

Maybe completion percentage against is more predictive, but go to a passer rating calculator and see what happens when you plug in one more INT on a sample size of 50.
I disagree. Good DBs maintain a low passer rating allowed.

Jalen Ramsey has maintained a pretty damn good 81.8 average over his career. Patrick Surtain has maintained a 72.3. Pretty much matches the eyeball test.
 

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I disagree. Good DBs maintain a low passer rating allowed.

Jalen Ramsey has maintained a pretty damn good 81.8 average over his career. Patrick Surtain has maintained a 72.3. Pretty much matches the eyeball test.
Are you checking the passer ratings allowed for top corners (confirmation bias) or are you looking at the lowest passer ratings allows for qualifying players?

Obviously Patrick Surtain has 387 targets to date as additional evidence. Burke has 54.

Is Denzel Burke better than Jalen Ramsey?
 

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Have any of you ever had to drive a van intended for a soccer mom? Brat kids piled up in a drive through at dairy Queen? A tattooed man driving and pumping fuel of ibuprofen? Lol

It's about team. And everyone even parents to Co team bs. This is no stranger to them it's about being together man
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Are you checking the passer ratings allowed for top corners (confirmation bias) or are you looking at the lowest passer ratings allows for qualifying players?

Obviously Patrick Surtain has 387 targets to date as additional evidence. Burke has 54.

Is Denzel Burke better than Jalen Ramsey?
All will be shown over time as we are both aware. Denzel Burke likely regresses to the mean obviously, but he was a well regarded prospect until his senior year.

Go look at good ole Kevin Peterson. That dude WAS TOTAL BUNS and passer rating allowed unequivocally demonstrates that. 127.8 QB Rating allowed.
 

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All will be shown over time as we are both aware. Denzel Burke likely regresses to the mean obviously, but he was a well regarded prospect until his senior year.

Go look at good ole Kevin Peterson. That dude WAS TOTAL BUNS and passer rating allowed unequivocally demonstrates that. 127.8 QB Rating allowed.
Will Johnson allowed a QB rating of 109.6. Is he total buns? Is he substantially worse than Denzel Burke?

Or are we choosing evidence because it supports our conclusion, instead of allowing the evidence to lead to the truth?
 
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