Why the hostility toward Carson Beck?

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All he has to do is win games and people will shut up.

That's a tall task with our schedule, even for a true blue chip rookie.

I will not darkside him (I hated the pick, btw) but I'm not in any way gung ho. He has NFL WC offense tools and IQ. It's the 8 inches between the ears that concern me (under pressure specifically) and that will end a career quick, even in the best situation, which he isn’t walking into.
 

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What I’m hearing is that there is a maturity issue. There’s also a strength issue and a poise issue. The latter is the hardest to correct.
His last throw in the Championship game still sticks in my head. He just yeeted it for no reason with the National title on the line. That does not inspire a ton of confidence about his poise.
 

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His last throw in the Championship game still sticks in my head. He just yeeted it for no reason with the National title on the line. That does not inspire a ton of confidence about his poise.
That's the 8 inches between the ears under pressure I worry about. But there are better NFL players i ever thought would be that good that never had that situation to blow up in and got so much better.

If they can coach him up, he could be special. He could be average. He could be a bust. I dont expect him to be much, but I also don't expect him to suck. His floor is a good to great backup. But he has a legit high ceiling.
 

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Easy. I had a down payment on a Lambo, went in to pick it up only to find out some a-hole slipped the salesman an extra thousand and stole it from me. Dirty SOB.
 

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His last throw in the Championship game still sticks in my head. He just yeeted it for no reason with the National title on the line. That does not inspire a ton of confidence about his poise.

Yeah, for all the talk about how he supposedly can process well, I don’t see it.

He tries a lot of hero ball stuff and throws a lot of picks.

Generally, on and off the field, he comes off to me as kind of an idiot.

I hope I’m wrong but my expectation is that he will get a shot during the season and he’s going to be so bad that we go back to Brissett or Minch after only a few games.
 

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Just read that in each of Miami's loses they had the ball with a chance to win on the final drive and in all 3 of them Beck threw a game deciding pick.

Didn't know that one.
And rightly so, he is the cardinal future...I'm too old for this ScheiBe
 

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Easy. I had a down payment on a Lambo, went in to pick it up only to find out some a-hole slipped the salesman an extra thousand and stole it from me. Dirty SOB.
I had an opportunity to drive a Lambo back in 1983...Glass shop owner owned one... it was beat to crap..broken body panels and such... but it was still a Lambo,...and when the guy offered to let me drive it around the block I nearly pissed myself...I was terrified, lol... even as a beat up hunk of crap there was no way I could afford to fix anything I broke

I should have driven the beater Lambo.....once in a lifetime chance
 

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Just read that in each of Miami's loses they had the ball with a chance to win on the final drive and in all 3 of them Beck threw a game deciding pick.

Didn't know that one.
when it gets chaotic in the backfield the game speeds up for him.
May or may not out grow it...but at 24 he might be running out of time.
 

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when it gets chaotic in the backfield the game speeds up for him.
May or may not out grow it...but at 24 he might be running out of time.

Well... like I said, watching him, hearing him talk, reading stories about him... he just seems kinda stupid.

I hope the optimists are right and he's "immature"... because you can't fix stupid.
 

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It does seem the schedule is designed to start a rookie after the bye if they intend to start Beck in year one.
 

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It does seem the schedule is designed to start a rookie after the bye if they intend to start Beck in year one.
i'd say earlier than the bye - once you're 0-6 anyhthing's possible - but if beck wants to start sooner he has to beat out minshew regardless
 

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It does seem the schedule is designed to start a rookie after the bye if they intend to start Beck in year one.
really?? wait until after week 14??/
No way...it takes the league 4 to 5 weeks to get solid data to adjust to a QB...starting him after week 14 ...going into the weakest part of our schedule...would have us finishing the season on a 3-1 rip...maybe even 4-0 if the niners are resting...and thinking we have our QBOTF in Beck...without ever seeing how well he adjusts to the defenses adjusting to his tendencies.
 

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I had an opportunity to drive a Lambo back in 1983...Glass shop owner owned one... it was beat to crap..broken body panels and such... but it was still a Lambo,...and when the guy offered to let me drive it around the block I nearly pissed myself...I was terrified, lol... even as a beat up hunk of crap there was no way I could afford to fix anything I broke

I should have driven the beater Lambo.....once in a lifetime chance
Rent one on vacation
 

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Yeah, for all the talk about how he supposedly can process well, I don’t see it.

He tries a lot of hero ball stuff and throws a lot of picks.

Generally, on and off the field, he comes off to me as kind of an idiot.

I hope I’m wrong but my expectation is that he will get a shot during the season and he’s going to be so bad that we go back to Brissett or Minch after only a few games.
You with a few others crack me up. Like you actually know?
 

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I had an opportunity to drive a Lambo back in 1983...Glass shop owner owned one... it was beat to crap..broken body panels and such... but it was still a Lambo,...and when the guy offered to let me drive it around the block I nearly pissed myself...I was terrified, lol... even as a beat up hunk of crap there was no way I could afford to fix anything I broke

I should have driven the beater Lambo.....once in a lifetime chance
never driven a lambo but have gotten a hummer - in a hummer
 

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On several threads there has been some outright hostility towards Carson Beck---statements that are pretty direct---"i don't like Beck,' etc.

What is it about CBK (the K added so that we don't confuse him with cornerbacks) that is triggering this kind of animosity?

His play and concern about his arm injury and recovery is one thing---but simply hating the guy?

Haters please respond.

Opportunity cost.
 

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Best case scenario he is a prototypical sized QB who was recovering from a major arm injury last year that shines now that he is healing (I’ll forgive some of his high INT ratio if he wasn’t quite 100%)

Worst case scenario he is a bust and you can put him in the Jacobi basket of nfl QBs who shouldn’t be an nfl starter and our new GM will pick a QB high

I have low expectations, I’m excited to see what MLF can do with him
 

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I heard the Steelers coaches told him to forget everything he was taught in college and are starting from scratch.

Not a good look for Franklin and his OC.
Yeah, when he told the kid not to go to the Manning camp, he should've been fired. Granted, Penn State mishandled it by firing him mid-season, but he had to go.
 

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