Jacoby Brissett wants extension that pays as a starter

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Going to be a rough year for you Brissett truthers.

Last year you people couldn't help yourselves saying that JB was better than K1.
Then the truth came out that his stats were mostly garbage time waste. Add in the fact he won 1 game out of 12.

Now the dude is asking for a bump in pay and you either saddle up that pony or completely change tune and say he is not worth it.

Rough

brissett sucks but he's durable and isn't a scared little ***** - we've gone over this - not going over 80 more times this season - nobody thinks brissett is the future - nobody will be surprised when he expectedly fails lol but you'll still act like it somehow vindicates kyler murray who the vikings wouldn't even fly out lol - they were like "sure - if you're in the neighborhood come thru"

 

[602 Native]

If he is asking to be paid like the average QB, that’s too much but if he wants to hit the bottom 20% that’s realistic. The Cards have a rep among players for being cheap. They can afford to make this gesture. They need to start changing their image.

I think it is a bad precedent to reward this dude but I don't think they have a choice in doing so.

They made this so bad by giving Gambo the new that JB was the starter.

Add in this stupidity.

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[some dumb guy]

You are about to enter the Twilight Zone, a 5th dimension beyond human knowledge
You unlock this door with a key of imagination. Another dimension of sound, sight and mind:
It's the Az cardinal's 2026 season. Jacoby Brissett's garbage time stats are now real. MHJ is the WR1 everyone expected. Wilson and McBride continue to improve, and we have the best running offense in the NFL. The defensive line is a run stuffing powerhouse and averaging 10 sacks a game...

Ok, even I started laughing while making this up....lolololol

 

[kerouac9]

I think it is a bad precedent to reward this dude but I don't think they have a choice in doing so.

They made this so bad by giving Gambo the new that JB was the starter.

Add in this stupidity.

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Imagine selecting and approving this image. It probably cost hundreds of dollars. No one was like “are we sure this is gonna last?”

 

[Solar7]

Nothing that you said equates to working “longer.” You want to argue putting his body on the line, that has some legs, but this is football. They all do that. Doing it for 3 hours per week more than the backup isn’t crazy. And by your logic every time a starter goes down with injury the backup should then get to have his contract torn up and get a raise equivalent to a starters. That’s not how sports works and that’s not how good businesses are run. You pay for value based on facts and circumstances.

Okay, change it to working "harder." Is that easier?

And no, if a player goes down and the backup comes in, you don't tear up the contract, that's part of next-man-up. But if that starter is now gone and the terms of the arrangement are significantly different, yes, it's time to look at their contract differently and reward them for the more difficult work, or putting their body on the line.

 

[Harry]

Okay, change it to working "harder." Is that easier?

And no, if a player goes down and the backup comes in, you don't tear up the contract, that's part of next-man-up. But if that starter is now gone and the terms of the arrangement are significantly different, yes, it's time to look at their contract differently and reward them for the more difficult work, or putting their body on the line.

I agree but that’s not what happened. The Cards had a healthy, previous starting QB under contract and released him. They acquired an experienced QB but paid him backup money. They could have acquired a starting QB, but decided to stay with who they had. That elevated Brissett to the starter. This wasn’t a backup having to step in. They reordered the QB room.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

They are not going to pay Brissett starter money if he is just a bridge QB. If he is going to start just a handful of games before we hand things over to a rookie QB, for example. If there is any interest at all, we likely trade Brissett if we draft a QB anywhere in the draft.

 

[Solar7]

I agree but that’s not what happened. The Cards had a healthy, previous starting QB under contract and released him. They acquired an experienced QB but paid him backup money. They could have acquired a starting QB, but decided to stay with who they had. That elevated Brissett to the starter. This wasn’t a backup having to step in. They reordered the QB room.

Regardless, there's more/harder work, and especially with the kicker of putting his body on the line more, he deserves to be paid more for it.

I'm not clamoring to extend him and make him a highly paid QB, but tossing him another... $5M wouldn't hurt my feelings, given that they have the cap space to do it.

 

[BritCard]

So he should. I said weeks ago this would happen.

You can't sign a guy to a backup contract for 2 years and then say "You know, we liked you as the starter" and not up his pay.

And the FO should have approached him about that first, because Brissett has all the leverage.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

And the FO should have approached him about that first, because Brissett has all the leverage.

This

MO needs to be proactive and start the conversation

Not reactive and look unprepared

 

[WhackobyBrisket]

I think he deserves something, but maybe a 2 year deal, with it massively front loaded.

But it should only be bottom end starter money based on his Cardinals performance to date.

I don't have too much of a problem with Jacoby, it's this poor management from the Cards Office that I find frustrating and comical.

They should have addressed this with Jacoby weeks back, especially when Minshew agreed his deal. It shouldn't be aired in the public days before the draft.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I don't have too much of a problem with Jacoby, it's this poor management from the Cards Office that I find frustrating and comical.

They should have addressed this with Jacoby weeks back, especially when Minshew agreed his deal. It shouldn't be aired in the public days before the draft.

This is the problem

It should have never got to this point

It's all on MO

 

[kerouac9]

I think he deserves something, but maybe a 2 year deal, with it massively front loaded.

But it should only be bottom end starter money based on his Cardinals performance to date.

I don't have too much of a problem with Jacoby, it's this poor management from the Cards Office that I find frustrating and comical.

They should have addressed this with Jacoby weeks back, especially when Minshew agreed his deal. It shouldn't be aired in the public days before the draft.

Reasonable points like this are very welcome on the board.

I’ll have a 30-oz tomahawk ribeye and a Wisconsin old fashioned

 

[Chopper0080]

I think it is a bad precedent to reward this dude but I don't think they have a choice in doing so.

They made this so bad by giving Gambo the new that JB was the starter.

Add in this stupidity.

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The Cardinals are like "We haven't named a starter"

Also the Cardinals, hanging this in the facility.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It doesn't surprise me if he's supposed to start he should be paid more but if he's asking for THAT much then yes it's absolute vintage Cards, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Get out from under Kylers contract(sort of) and immediately have to massively overpay for a guy who was 1-11 as a starter last year.

I think we all know this story, we'll overpay, not what he wants but we'll overpay. And we'll still lose games, we'll give him a guarantee, then the RT we draft way too early will miss a block, JB will get destroyed and miss the rest of the season. The QB will be Minshew, who will be decent but not great. Eventually we'll start the QB we gave up valuable picks to move up to draft, Ty Simpson, and he'll be terrible.

You forgot to mention that Minshew will win us meaningless games at the end of the year to take us out of the elite QB sweepstakes...

 

[Chopper0080]

You forgot to mention that Minshew will win us meaningless games at the end of the year to take us out of the elite QB sweepstakes...

I mean, Brissett wasn't able to do it, why would Minshew be able to? Again, you don't have to be miserable at QB to lose games in the NFL. The Cardinals defense right now is in a great spot to support below average QB play to accomplish this.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I mean, Brissett wasn't able to do it, why would Minshew be able to? Again, you don't have to be miserable at QB to lose games in the NFL. The Cardinals defense right now is in a great spot to support below average QB play to accomplish this.

because there was no real elite QB sweepstakes this year? Cards never really had a chance at #1 overall (only elite QB) since Kyler got them wins at the beginning...

You also have to figure in the 'new coach bump.' It can be a thing for sure.

 

[Chopper0080]

because there was no real elite QB sweepstakes this year? Cards never really had a chance at #1 overall (only elite QB) since Kyler got them wins at the beginning...

You also have to figure in the 'new coach bump.' It can be a thing for sure.

You don't need the #1 overall pick to get a top QB. Some would argue that Kyler Murray proved that. Several top QBs weren't the first QB taken in their own drafts.

 

[kerouac9]

You forgot to mention that Minshew will win us meaningless games at the end of the year to take us out of the elite QB sweepstakes...

We lost those games this season as the usual suspects cheered along and look where we are today. This “strategy” makes zero sense.

Try to win games. Deal with the draft in the offseason. Trying to lose games got us where we are today. A miserable shrinking fan base with no hope.

 

[Chopper0080]

We lost those games this season as the usual suspects cheered along and look where we are today. This “strategy” makes zero sense.

Try to win games. Deal with the draft in the offseason. Trying to lose games got us where we are today. A miserable shrinking fan base with no hope.

I agree so much. The Cardinals need to make moves to win games, even if they ultimately fail to do so. At least then what fans are left can see the franchise prioritizing winning over ego and money and trying to tank.

 

[Harry]

You don't need the #1 overall pick to get a top QB. Some would argue that Kyler Murray proved that. Several top QBs weren't the first QB taken in their own drafts.

Certainly true next year unless everyone falls apart, like this year.

 

[602 Native]

The Cardinals are like "We haven't named a starter"

Also the Cardinals, hanging this in the facility.

What are you talking about doesn’t every Super Bowl winning NFL franchise hang pics of the backup QB in their building?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We lost those games this season as the usual suspects cheered along and look where we are today. This “strategy” makes zero sense.

Try to win games. Deal with the draft in the offseason. Trying to lose games got us where we are today. A miserable shrinking fan base with no hope.

I don't think the Cards tried to lose those games. If that were the case, your statement is true.

Fans sometimes want their team to lose games, to make the chance of winning games happen in the future.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You don't need the #1 overall pick to get a top QB. Some would argue that Kyler Murray proved that. Several top QBs weren't the first QB taken in their own drafts.

That's a fair point. It would happen in a year like this year where there is only one clear #1 overall QB. That probably won't be the case next year.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I agree so much. The Cardinals need to make moves to win games, even if they ultimately fail to do so.

I think that the Cards should take Love/Bailey or trade down. Some thought trading down for the Anderson/Johnson trade was the wrong call. Hindsight proved that correct of course, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's the case this year.

At least then what fans are left can see the franchise prioritizing winning over ego and money and trying to tank.

If prioritizing winning means most, we all chose the wrong franchise to support.