Chopper0080
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I backed Isaiah Simmons, why wouldn't I back Love or Reese or whomever.
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Which he defines as boom or bust. By definition that can go either way. Alt boomed. Doesn’t ensure mauiga will or that he expects him to do so.
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Run Forrest...run...
He wants you to show him!
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Too funny, just got home from mom's for Easter lunch and this was playing on the radio....lol
I back Simmons instead of Cee Dee never again. Give me Love
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Love hurts …love scars ..love wounds and marks…any heart not tough or strong to take a lot of pain…take a lot of pain….love is like a cloud that holds a lot of rain..love hurts…ooohhhh love hurts……
Krangodnzr
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I wanted Wills or Lamb.
Krangodnzr
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The point of the disagreement was the use of consensus. There is always a scout or two or few who back another guy. Someone even posted that one scout who ranks Mendoza like 5th.Sorry but as a guy who tries not to trust his memory, you’re dead wrong about Joe Thomas and Tony Boseli. Both were top rated. Couldn’t find an easy link showing 2007 consensus, but just Google 2007 NFL mock drafts. Here’s a little 1995.
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Man that's just a category. The category below boom or bust is "Will become good starter within two years"
@Chopper0080 point stands, Zierlein, who is highly regarded in the scouting community, rates Mauigoa close to Joe Alt. People's view of Mauigoa is being tainted by the common "might be a guard" statement. If you read further, scouts clearly say he has enough lateral agility to handle the edge. He has good, not great lateral agility which is why he will never be a LT.
What is special about Mauigoa is that he is extremely strong and has great hands. When he gets locked into a rusher, they aren't going anywhere. And he's shown the ability to combo block fairly regularly. He's a really good player, and barring unforeseen circumstances (injury, off field, etc), he is going to at least be a good player in the NFL. Maybe not a star, but his floor is extremely high.
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Chopper0080
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Not what I meant. I thought Simmons was the wrong pick 100% but still wanted him to succeed.
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Are we convinced that PJJ is on the team for the long-haul at LT? He's coming up for either contract extension/tag. He may look to move on from the dysfunctional Card organization and move into free agency---he'll get his big contract on a team of choice with a better chance of playoff/SB appearance.
We are toying with the idea of a RT in anticipation of having bookends for our OL. If PJJ does elect to move on, this #3 pick might need to be one who can slide over to LT. Is Mag that guy?
We are toying with the idea of a RT in anticipation of having bookends for our OL. If PJJ does elect to move on, this #3 pick might need to be one who can slide over to LT. Is Mag that guy?
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As long as we are gathering up rock videos of 'Love'
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OMG. We have two more years of team control.
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not to mention if Monty can't lockdown one of his only successful draft picks and in year four is already drafting his replacement for his Year 1 draft, well... that seems appropriately pathetic for this FO.
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I have no problem with Mauigoa as a player. It's that he's a RT and he's not as highly rated as Reese, Bailey, Love, Downs, or even Styles. Those guys all play positions that need upgraded on the Cards as well and are better players. To me, at 3, you want the best player and if you're taking a RT at 3, he better be the Joe Thomas/Anthony Munoz of RT's.
If you list the most impactful positions, RT and interior OL are at/near the bottom of the list because there are so many available that can do the job. Mauigoa is a nice prospect but to pass on a possible game effecting edge rusher for a very good RT is a very Lossenfort thing to do. And I said the same thing about PJJ at 6 when it was talked about him staying at RT.
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The comments regarding 'years of control' and 'tags' need to be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to a quality-level player and one you want to keep. SK/MB thought this applied to KM and extended him when the same considerations applied to him---get him signed before he was due in order to reduce the team cost.
If the Cards are looking to keep PJJ at his priority position of LT, they will need to approach an extension sooner rather than later. How PJJ responds will let us know if he really wants to stay with the Cards. PJJ may want his bag now . . . or he may want a bag from a quality team a little later. The player takes a gamble that he will be healthy when it is contract renewal time or when he hits FA---it places added pressure on the player to take the money now---which is why an extension earlier than necessary is a possibility.
If the Cards are looking to keep PJJ at his priority position of LT, they will need to approach an extension sooner rather than later. How PJJ responds will let us know if he really wants to stay with the Cards. PJJ may want his bag now . . . or he may want a bag from a quality team a little later. The player takes a gamble that he will be healthy when it is contract renewal time or when he hits FA---it places added pressure on the player to take the money now---which is why an extension earlier than necessary is a possibility.
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Hopefully Mikey learned his lesson about extending a player when it's not required. The team has all the power. They can put the 5th year on and then, as mentioned, can tag them. That's 6 years. Players can sulk, ask for a trade, or threaten to hold out but they won't and are only hurting their value.
I have no problem extending a guy at the right time or if you have a superstar. A legit star, not a Murray who whined his way into that extension and was the beginning of the end for Keim.
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For MB's perspective of years of failure at getting the right FO and right players in place, he probably thought he finally lucked out with his trio of SK/KK/KM. He gambled and lost on that trifecta especially when the league figured out KM's limitations as an NFL-level QB and how to defend the KK's offensive playbook. SK went from 'GM of the Year' to unemployed when that happened.
It doesn't equate that getting an extension done with PJJ is not the 'correct' management tactic. Just has to be done with more care before signing the big contract.
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There’s an argument to be made that after his worst pro season is the best time to extend PJJ. He has $4.5MM coming to him this season and then $19MM fifth year option number.
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