Jeremiyah Love No Matter What

[kerouac9]

No they don’t why would you think and say this?

Fear is the #1 driver of every executive in the NFL brother. All these guys are a couple seven-win seasons from throwing out taeks three days a week on talk radio.

Being an NFL GM is a cool a heck job but there are only 32 of them and there are hundreds of qualified candidates looking to take yours. At the same time, you have an audience of one (the owner) who is often capricious.

 

[Mainstreet]

See, my argument is that if you don’t have confidence in Monti you want him to take the talent with less warts. Less chance for him to screw it up. By all accounts love has fewer warts than any olineman in the draft. Don’t let him Monti-this-up.

That hasn’t worked in the past for Monte, why would it work this time?

I'd probably go some combination of Edge, OL and Quarterback with the first three picks.

Since I don't have a lot of confidence in Monti as a GM, it's a matter of math if a trade down were available.

I can't see taking a running back at #3 when running backs are available later in the draft.

 

[Garthshort]

Hoping for Love.

P.S. Hold off on ,"Aren't we all" replies.

 

[Krangodnzr]

So you're glad we passed on Adrian Peterson for Levi Brown? Cool. Cool cool cool.

Love ain't Peterson, and Mauigoa is a better college player than Levi Brown.

Peterson was one of the all time great college players, and in the scheme of things Love doesn't even crack the top 50 college running backs of all time.

The glazing of Love here is unreal. He's a good player, but his goodness is really only being magnified by how bleeeeeeh this draft is.

 

[Krangodnzr]

See, my argument is that if you don’t have confidence in Monti you want him to take the talent with less warts. Less chance for him to screw it up. By all accounts love has fewer warts than any olineman in the draft. Don’t let him Monti-this-up.

I don't know about the "by all accounts". Love has warts too, he's not especially good as a power runner, he's more of the shifty elusive type.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don't feel Mauigoa is a stretch at 3, but I understand I am in the minority. He is also not my top choice, but I still feel he will be an impactful player if MLF feels like he an handle the outside zone scheme. (I think he can but I am not a NFL offensive mind by any stretch)

I'm with you. Taking good starting OL is a winning strategy.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I'm with you. Taking good starting OL is a winning strategy.

I disagree I'd take skill over beef. I can guarantee Monti's plan is going to stink
I would take Love

 

[Stout]

Love ain't Peterson, and Mauigoa is a better college player than Levi Brown.

Peterson was one of the all time great college players, and in the scheme of things Love doesn't even crack the top 50 college running backs of all time.

The glazing of Love here is unreal. He's a good player, but his goodness is really only being magnified by how bleeeeeeh this draft is.

Can't argue with you there. My preference for Love stems from the fact that I believe he is a much better prospect than any of the OTs in the draft. As we're going to suck anyway, I'd much rather bring in superior talent than drafting for need. It's not like we're going to get our QBOF injured or anything.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Can't argue with you there. My preference for Love stems from the fact that I believe he is a much better prospect than any of the OTs in the draft. As we're going to suck anyway, I'd much rather bring in superior talent than drafting for need. It's not like we're going to get our QBOF injured or anything.

Running backs require an OL bro. This years RT class was putrid mostly. Sometimes teams paint themselves in the corner by not having a roster option and they have to draft a guy. This looks like one of those situations.

Now the Cardinals COULD draft one in the 2nd/3rd, but those guys are inferior to Mauigoa by a wide margin.

I just think that Love is being hyped based on a terrible draft class, not because he's that good. Jeanty was substantially more productive than Love. Love has THREE career games where he carried the ball 20 times or more. That doesn't scream top pick to me, it's not a slam dunk.

 

[Garthshort]

Love ain't Peterson, and Mauigoa is a better college player than Levi Brown.

Peterson was one of the all time great college players, and in the scheme of things Love doesn't even crack the top 50 college running backs of all time.

The glazing of Love here is unreal. He's a good player, but his goodness is really only being magnified by how bleeeeeeh this draft is.

Are you implying, "That in the land of the blind, the one eyed rule"?

 

[Chopper0080]

Contrary opinion, I don't see this draft, especially at the top, being that different than last years.

Cam Ward = Mendoza
Ashton Jeanty = Jeremiah Love
Abdul Carter = David Bailey (or Arvell if you prefer)
Campbell = Mauigoa
Membou and Banks = Fano and Freeling
Booker = Ioane
Mykel Williams = Rueben Bain
Hunter/Tet/Loveland = Tate/Delane/Lemon

The big differences are Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant vs Downs and Styles.

Everyone is going to have their preferences of the group but I feel the differences are mostly minor.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Love ain't Peterson, and Mauigoa is a better college player than Levi Brown.

Peterson was one of the all time great college players, and in the scheme of things Love doesn't even crack the top 50 college running backs of all time.

The glazing of Love here is unreal. He's a good player, but his goodness is really only being magnified by how bleeeeeeh this draft is.

It’s like this I don’t want dessert when I go to Texas roadhouse….i want meat and potatoes ….would love for us to have a feared running game for once….francis is the easy choice….which means Monti won’t do it

 

[kerouac9]

Contrary opinion, I don't see this draft, especially at the top, being that different than last years.

Cam Ward = Mendoza
Ashton Jeanty = Jeremiah Love
Abdul Carter = David Bailey (or Arvell if you prefer)
Campbell = Mauigoa
Membou and Banks = Fano and Freeling
Booker = Ioane
Mykel Williams = Rueben Bain
Hunter/Tet/Loveland = Tate/Delane/Lemon

The big differences are Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant vs Downs and Styles.

Everyone is going to have their preferences of the group but I feel the differences are mostly minor.

Temu 2025 draft. Which was also pretty butt.

We didn’t care because we were drafting in the middle.

 

[Chopper0080]

Temu 2025 draft. Which was also pretty butt.

We didn’t care because we were drafting in the middle.

I think it is closer than TEMU. lol

Example I would take Mendoza over Ward, Love over Jeanty, and Tate over Tet. Also, Bain over Mykel and Ioane over Booker (probably). I also think Mauigoa and Campbell are a wash but just playing different sides. I also view Bailey and Carter as close prospects.

 

[GatorAZ]

Running backs require an OL bro. This years RT class was putrid mostly. Sometimes teams paint themselves in the corner by not having a roster option and they have to draft a guy. This looks like one of those situations.

Now the Cardinals COULD draft one in the 2nd/3rd, but those guys are inferior to Mauigoa by a wide margin.

I just think that Love is being hyped based on a terrible draft class, not because he's that good. Jeanty was substantially more productive than Love. Love has THREE career games where he carried the ball 20 times or more. That doesn't scream top pick to me, it's not a slam dunk.

Love is that good he just played less snaps like Gibbs because he’s younger. If he plays his 21 year old season he’s up there with Peterson and Jeanty stat wise. I also look at less wear & tear as a positive.

 

[slanidrac16]

I don't know about the "by all accounts". Love has warts too, he's not especially good as a power runner, he's more of the shifty elusive type.

You mean like Gibbs?

 

[Chopper0080]

Fun fact. I think Adrian Peterson and the Arizona Cardinals have the same number of Super Bowl titles. Unpopular opinion is that the Cardinals did not make a mistake passing on Adrian Peterson...they made a mistake in selecting Levi Brown over Joe Staley.

 

[GatorAZ]

Fun fact. I think Adrian Peterson and the Arizona Cardinals have the same number of Super Bowl titles. Unpopular opinion is that the Cardinals did not make a mistake passing on Adrian Peterson...they made a mistake in selecting Levi Brown over Joe Staley.

I’ll take my chances with Warner, Fitz and AP regardless of our mediocre OL. We had no explosive rushing threat those days.

 

[kerouac9]

Fun fact. I think Adrian Peterson and the Arizona Cardinals have the same number of Super Bowl titles. Unpopular opinion is that the Cardinals did not make a mistake passing on Adrian Peterson...they made a mistake in selecting Levi Brown over Joe Staley.

Staley was a better prospect than Levi Brown but a higher-variance guy.

Just a killer miss.

 

[Harry]

I don't feel Mauigoa is a stretch at 3, but I understand I am in the minority. He is also not my top choice, but I still feel he will be an impactful player if MLF feels like he an handle the outside zone scheme. (I think he can but I am not a NFL offensive mind by any stretch)

It would be a very conservative pick, but not a terrible one. He’s likely to be a solid player at a position of great need. There are certainly worse choices.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Love is that good he just played less snaps like Gibbs because he’s younger. If he plays his 21 year old season he’s up there with Peterson and Jeanty stat wise. I also look at less wear & tear as a positive.

No, not he's not. Peterson made the 2000 yard club as a 17 year old. The only thing that ever slowed Peterson down was injuries, but he's still an all time great in college and in the pros.

Love had 2800 yards in his 3 year career at ND, and a middling 1300 was his career high. For reference Cam Skattebo almost matched that in 2 years at ASU.

Love is a very good player, but like I said, he hasn't shown he can be a work horse really. He's not the slam dunk everyone here is saying. Even Zierlein's grading system over at NFL.com has Love as an inferior prospect to Jeanty (7.1 vs 6.7).

Those skinny little legs and lack of high carry games are some warts. We don't know if he can physically handle a large workload over a long season because he didn't even handle a large workload at ND.

I really like Love and think he can be a really good NFL player, but that's not for certain, and where this team sits now I think investing in the lines is a better option.

 

[GatorAZ]

No, not he's not. Peterson made the 2000 yard club as a 17 year old. The only thing that ever slowed Peterson down was injuries, but he's still an all time great in college and in the pros.

Love had 2800 yards in his 3 year career at ND, and a middling 1300 was his career high. For reference Cam Skattebo almost matched that in 2 years at ASU.

Love is a very good player, but like I said, he hasn't shown he can be a work horse really. He's not the slam dunk everyone here is saying. Even Zierlein's grading system over at NFL.com has Love as an inferior prospect to Jeanty (7.1 vs 6.7).

Those skinny little legs and lack of high carry games are some warts. We don't know if he can physically handle a large workload over a long season because he didn't even handle a large workload at ND.

I really like Love and think he can be a really good NFL player, but that's not for certain, and where this team sits now I think investing in the lines is a better option.

Peterson was 22 when he was drafted so that’s impossible but it doesn’t matter. Point is Love is still 20 and had a different arc. He has 500 career touches and is more of a Gibbs type than total workhorse which to me is a green flag cause of wear and tear.

 

[kerouac9]

Peterson was 22 when he was drafted so that’s impossible but it doesn’t matter. Point is Love is still 20 and had a different arc. He has 500 career touches and is more of a Gibbs type than total workhorse which to me is a green flag cause of wear and tear.

Peterson was such a special prosp People were asking if we could let him into the draft early.

He had 1900+ rushing yards as a freshman. He was a force of nature.

 

[slanidrac16]

Peterson was such a special prosp People were asking if we could let him into the draft early.

He had 1900+ rushing yards as a freshman. He was a force of nature.

If I recall Peterson was coming off a knee injury.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I say get that pass rusher and RT in the first two rounds, then get that Notre Dame back- Jadarian Price