Ty Simpson declares for the 2026 NFL draft

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NOOOOOO. His lack of starts is a huge risk and obviously, his play down the stretch warrants concern.

I don't think his detractors are being fair to the circumstances of his season. The offense around him 100% relied solely on him to drive the team. There was a rash of injuries and he himself was injured and also lost 20 lbs due to gastritis. Few QBs would continue to play well under those circumstances.

But at the top of round two or a trade up into round one SHOULD be a consideration. His play during the first eight games was elite.
I don't think his supporters are affording enough weight to lack of games. If he played two seasons and had a good body of work, the circumstances excuses could be effective, depending on how the extra year went. I think posters being asked to forgive his bad play/games due to circumstances is completely undermined by his lack of games.
 

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I’m not convinced the 2027 QB pool is going to be outstanding. Assuming the Cards end up with the 4th or 5th best prospect, I’m not certain that’s the key to the playoffs. I’m not even sure they get a first year starter.
 

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Monti’s dream is trading back at 3, grabbing a RT, and then trading back into round 1 for Simpson without giving up a top 60 pick in 2027.
I don’t think we are getting Simpson anyway…no way we take him at 3 and he will be long gone by pick 34 ….probably be a jet or steeler ….my guess is what nfl.com had for us this morning…maugoa…then tj Parker…then nuss…I would take that draft right now
 

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I was trying to think of a legit comparison for Ty Simpson and in some ways he reminds me of Jake Plummer. I think Plummer was more of a “gamer” where Simpson is more of a student of the game, but physically they are very similar. People knocked Jake for his slim build and good but not great arm strength. Jake could throw some wobblers, but he also threw darts when he was really on. Simpson is probably as good or better in arm strength and overall athleticism. Obviously Jake was a local hero and had significantly more college starts, but they both seem to have an “it” factor. Simpson detractors point to his late season slide, but reports say he was dealing with either a health issue or injury that caused significant weight loss. When Simpson was really cooking earlier in the season, he had that ability to will Alabama to scoring drives and was willing to take a hit in order to deliver the pass.
Jake went around pick #41 (2nd round) and if the Cards can get Simpson at either 34 or slightly higher, the value seems fair.
Jake was an elite athlete.
Simpson is a JAG in comparison.

Jake put his team on his back in college. Simpson has to have excuses made for why he is a JAG.

Please don’t ever compare Jake Plummer to Simpson.
 

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What?! No, absolutely not. I would be okay with him toward the end of round 1, but certainly not at #3 overall.
I tried to do the multi-quote function but failed. Anyway you had several posts in the "who is our next qb" thread. A couple of them stated things that sorta confirms what I posted. At one point you did say that Ty at #3 is to big a risk.
You also stated that if the Cards love a QB then they shouldn't mess around with trading back because it wouldn't be worth the risk of losing out on your potential Qbotf.
All good from my end and sorry if I was reading between the lines too much.
 

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I don’t think we are getting Simpson anyway…no way we take him at 3 and he will be long gone by pick 34 ….probably be a jet or steeler ….my guess is what nfl.com had for us this morning…maugoa…then tj Parker…then nuss…I would take that draft right now
I like Nussmeier but I’m not sure he develops betond a backup QB. I’m not hearing the Cards are showing interest.
 

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IF we can’t get Simpson with second pick, wouldn’t be opposed with Nussmier or Allar later on might get lucky based on where these guys were. Supposed to shake out
 

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You also stated that if the Cards love a QB then they shouldn't mess around with trading back because it wouldn't be worth the risk of losing out on your potential Qbotf.
Oh, I do mean that. :) If they truly think that Simpson is their savior, they absolutely should not try to outsmart everyone else. They should take him as soon as they can. A franchise quarterback is worth much, much more than any other player they can get at #3. I just doubt that they are so convinced.

But no, I would not take Simpson at #3. I have too much doubt about him to do that.
 

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Jake was an elite athlete.
Simpson is a JAG in comparison.

Jake put his team on his back in college. Simpson has to have excuses made for why he is a JAG.

Please don’t ever compare Jake Plummer to Simpson.
Jake was my favorite player. In fact, back in the late 90’s when I walked around Flagstaff Training Camp wearing my #16 Plummer jersey, many would ask me if Jake and I were brothers. I don’t know if I would call Jake an elite athlete. He ran in the high 4.9’s in the 40. He was incredibly slippery, but had incredible calmness in game winning situations. That is what I see in Simpson, but I could be wrong.
 

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Jake was my favorite player. In fact, back in the late 90’s when I walked around Flagstaff Training Camp wearing my #16 Plummer jersey, many would ask me if Jake and I were brothers. I don’t know if I would call Jake an elite athlete. He ran in the high 4.9’s in the 40. He was incredibly slippery, but had incredible calmness in game winning situations. That is what I see in Simpson, but I could be wrong.
Game winning situations and Simpson have nothing in common.
 

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I don't think his supporters are affording enough weight to lack of games. If he played two seasons and had a good body of work, the circumstances excuses could be effective, depending on how the extra year went. I think posters being asked to forgive his bad play/games due to circumstances is completely undermined by his lack of games.
I don't disagree..which is why you take him later.

QB is just such an important position that I would gamble a little.
 

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I don't disagree..which is why you take him later.

QB is just such an important position that I would gamble a little.
If by 3rd round, I agree, that would be a great time to take a flyer on him. If they take him in the 2nd, or gods forbid trade back into the 1st/trade down in the 1st to take him, you can kiss the idea of drafting a QB next year goodbye, even if we suck. This is the cards. They're not bailing on a highly drafted QB after one year.
 

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If by 3rd round, I agree, that would be a great time to take a flyer on him. If they take him in the 2nd, or gods forbid trade back into the 1st/trade down in the 1st to take him, you can kiss the idea of drafting a QB next year goodbye, even if we suck. This is the cards. They're not bailing on a highly drafted QB after one year.
Hmmm Josh Rosen probably disagrees with this statement.
 

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Daniel Orlovsky doing Ty Simpson’s agent a favor
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Hmmm Josh Rosen probably disagrees with this statement.
You see a repeat of that happening with Simpson, do you? I don't. Rosen wasn't supposed to be a developmental project; Simpson is. Plus this is Bidwill, M. we're talking about, and Monti. You think Bidwill, M. would let Monti select the next QB one year later? I don't. I also don't think Monti would do that. He's sing every tune he knows about patience and development because sticking with Simpson would get him another year or two in the job.

If the team drafts Simpson high, forget about a high 2027 QB draft pick.
 

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You see a repeat of that happening with Simpson, do you? I don't. Rosen wasn't supposed to be a developmental project; Simpson is. Plus this is Bidwill, M. we're talking about, and Monti. You think Bidwill, M. would let Monti select the next QB one year later? I don't. I also don't think Monti would do that. He's sing every tune he knows about patience and development because sticking with Simpson would get him another year or two in the job.

If the team drafts Simpson high, forget about a high 2027 QB draft pick.
How about we call lunch and tell him to take pick 65 for Mac jones…..tell him “ we are going to sign him this time next year anyways “ “ might as well take a pick or get nothing”
 

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I’m not convinced the 2027 QB pool is going to be outstanding. Assuming the Cards end up with the 4th or 5th best prospect, I’m not certain that’s the key to the playoffs. I’m not even sure they get a first year starter.
I agree that the 2027 QB pool is getting way too much hype. Many thought that this 2026 QB class would be good and none of the "experts" even had Mendoza rated high. If the Cards see a QB they really like they should draft him now.
 
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Mendoza never being under center, majority of his throws being RPO, and him not having to make as many full reads. Raise any questions with him?
 

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The Mac Jones comparisons don’t even make sense. They just see white QB from Alabama & boom, that’s it.
Its not just rando's saying.

On NFL.com's 2026 draft profile for Simpson, Jones is Simpson's NFL comparison.

"One-year starters rarely “boom” so he’ll need a patient staff and a clear developmental roadmap to fill in the missing pieces," NFL analyst Lance Zierlein writes.

Simpson has a "favorable foundation," one where he is "mechanically sound from a footwork and release perspective." But Simpson's "timing and anticipation remain works in progress," paired with "average" arm talent and velocity.

These comparisons are usually crapshoots anyway. Bryce Young was drawing mini AROD comparisons.

I said a mix of Purdy and Mac. So what else makes Ty such a different prospect/more gifted player in your opinion?
 

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