OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Shane]

Whole thread is brutal

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Guys a total stud

 

[Shane]

Source: Kyler Murray, Cardinals haven't talked, rebutting GM — ESPN

Cardinals general manager Monti Ossenfort said he has spoken with quarterback Kyler Murray, but a source told ESPN that the two have not talked since the end of the season.

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[daves]

Whole thread is brutal

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Interesting that his usual supporters have had nothing to say about these facts... Not even the usual disagree or laughing emoji.

Not posting this to call anyone out, just to point out that so many of Murray's failings are completely irrefutable and indefensible. #Sad

 

[602 Native]

Why I will almost never fault a player for fleeing here.
This organization is a total dumpster fire.

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[602 Native]

Interesting that his usual supporters have had nothing to say about these facts... Not even the usual disagree or laughing emoji.

Not posting this to call anyone out, just to point out that so many of Murray's failings are completely irrefutable and indefensible. #Sad

When you have terrible coaches and zero support front the FO why argue with stats from those regimes.

Posts like this will be bookmarked though for future reference. I have a very bad feeling though this thread will be memory holed by the mods to prevent things being quoted in the future by the haters.

 

[BritCard]

Why I will almost never fault a player for fleeing here.
This organization is a total dumpster fire.

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Yeah, it was JG. Odegard is a muppet.

If it wasn't JG that benched Kyler and it was Monti, then JG doesn't get fired and Monti does. That's pretty simple.

In the very unlikely event it wasn't JG it would have been leaked all over the media that he was fired when benching Kyler wasn't on him.

Low IQ nonsense to think otherwise.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

When you have terrible coaches and zero support front the FO why argue with stats from those regimes.

Posts like this will be bookmarked though for future reference. I have a very bad feeling though this thread will be memory holed by the mods to prevent things being quoted in the future by the haters.

Not all of us are haters as you call it

I am disappointed that KM fell off a cliff and left us hanging

I've always wanted him to step up and show consistency

I believe he didn't do the necessary prep to excel after DC's figured out how to defend him

Doesn't mean I hate him

The team giving him that ridiculous extension only made things worse

 

[gimpy]

Its gonna go away

Yes, Kyler is going away. But, people on here won't let this thread go away, not for a long time.

 

[602 Native]

Not all of us are haters as you call it

I am disappointed that KM fell off a cliff and left us hanging

I've always wanted him to step up and show consistency

I believe he didn't do the necessary prep to excel after DC's figured out how to defend him

Doesn't mean I hate him

The team giving him that ridiculous extension only made things worse

It’s ok to dislike K1 for his play on the field but not for the bag he negotiated with his agent. The PV Hillbillies gave him the contract and they should be blamed not the guy they gave the deal to.

This team is ran horribly and no one can argue different.
K1 could have played better and he was also handicapped by this pathetic franchise.

Both things can be true.

 

[BritCard]

It’s ok to dislike K1 for his play on the field but not for the bag he negotiated with his agent. The PV Hillbillies gave him the contract and they should be blamed not the guy they gave the deal to.

This team is ran horribly and no one can argue different.
K1 could have played better and he was also handicapped by this pathetic franchise.

Both things can be true.

There's nothing wrong with Kyler Murray that isn't 100% on him.

Nobody is down on Kyler because of results. They want him gone because he can't read defenses, can't throw over the middle, can't throw accurately over 10 yards consistently, bails clean pockets, you know all the things he sucks at. How are any of them on anyone but himself?

He's the only QB in the league who doesn't train with a coach in the offseason and never has.

I can't tell you what our wins would look like if Kyler was a better quarterback, because outside of 7 games in 2021 he's never been good enough. Or maybe those 7 games are what this team could be if he played better?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Nobody is down on Kyler because of results.

Uh, speak for yourself buddy.

 

[602 Native]

There's nothing wrong with Kyler Murray that isn't 100% on him.

Nobody is down on Kyler because of results. They want him gone because he can't read defenses, can't throw over the middle, can't throw accurately over 10 yards consistently, bails clean pockets, you know all the things he sucks at. How are any of them on anyone but himself?

He's the only QB in the league who doesn't train with a coach in the offseason and never has.

I can't tell you what our wins would look like if Kyler was a better quarterback, because outside of 7 games in 2021 he's never been good enough. Or maybe those 7 games are what this team could be if he played better?

Yes I know every loss is on K1 and every win is due to something else. There is a happy medium that doesn’t have to be rooted in hyperbole.

My man all of what you posted is about his results.

Dear lord

 

[DVontel]

Not posting this to call anyone out

We all have eyes. We know you’re talking about 602, lol.

 

[DVontel]

I would say this thread has just a couple more weeks but I am guessing it will continue on for awhile. Hopefully the sticky goes away.

Wonder which QB thread is gonna replace this one?

Malik Willis?
Ty Simpson?
Garrett Nussmeier?

Interesting choices.

 

[kerouac9]

He's the only QB in the league who doesn't train with a coach in the offseason and never has.

Source?

 

[kerouac9]

Yeah, it was JG. Odegard is a muppet.

If it wasn't JG that benched Kyler and it was Monti, then JG doesn't get fired and Monti does. That's pretty simple.

In the very unlikely event it wasn't JG it would have been leaked all over the media that he was fired when benching Kyler wasn't on him.

Low IQ nonsense to think otherwise.

This is the true nonsense. You don’t like a report, so you deny it and wishcast alternative facts.

There are tons of reasons JG could be following orders on benching Kyler AND also be fired. Starting with Michael and Monti believing that Jacoby Brissett should have supported a better record than 1-11.

Who would be leaking the benching decision? If there’s one value that JG has consistently illustrated it’s the compulsive desire to keep things in-house.

 

[DVontel]

Yeah, it was JG. Odegard is a muppet.

If it wasn't JG that benched Kyler and it was Monti, then JG doesn't get fired and Monti does. That's pretty simple.

In the very unlikely event it wasn't JG it would have been leaked all over the media that he was fired when benching Kyler wasn't on him.

Low IQ nonsense to think otherwise.

What makes Odegard a muppet?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

It’s ok to dislike K1 for his play on the field but not for the bag he negotiated with his agent. The PV Hillbillies gave him the contract and they should be blamed not the guy they gave the deal to.

This team is ran horribly and no one can argue different.
K1 could have played better and he was also handicapped by this pathetic franchise.

Both things can be true.

Yes

But I didn't say I disliked him

I said I was disappointed in him since we needed a home drafted QB to work for us and he teased us to no end

 

[Stout]

Not all of us are haters as you call it

I am disappointed that KM fell off a cliff and left us hanging

I've always wanted him to step up and show consistency

I believe he didn't do the necessary prep to excel after DC's figured out how to defend him

Doesn't mean I hate him

The team giving him that ridiculous extension only made things worse

God almighty, I would have loved for him to have come through for us. I was falling all over myself loving him during that great run he had.

 

[Stout]

It’s ok to dislike K1 for his play on the field but not for the bag he negotiated with his agent. The PV Hillbillies gave him the contract and they should be blamed not the guy they gave the deal to.

This team is ran horribly and no one can argue different.
K1 could have played better and he was also handicapped by this pathetic franchise.

Both things can be true.

Absolutely. I mean, sure, I have residual resentment for him because of it, but Bidwill, M. was the culprit.

 

[Stout]

Wonder which QB thread is gonna replace this one?

Malik Willis?
Ty Simpson?
Garrett Nussmeier?

Interesting choices.

One of the first two. If we take Nuss, it won't be in the 1st and therefore not as controversial. Now if we draft Allar in the 3rd, the board will turn into a knife fight lol

 

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[BullheadCardFan]

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[some dumb guy]

Hmmm, I wonder if Kyler likes Long John Silver's.

 

[kerouac9]

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The Cards should at least propose it. It’d be ridiculous for the Raiders to do.