OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[QuebecCard]

No way man. That Cardinals aren't that stupid.

We wouldn't cut off our nose just to spite our face.

All KM's agent has to say is 'my client has no interest in playing there,' and any trade is off.

 

[kerouac9]

That's more than likely why he's not talking. Doesn't mean he's a cancer in the clubhouse. If I'm paying a guy $50m I'd rather he wore my uniform and wasn't sitting on his couch.

You’re only paying him $50 million if you decide to keep him. No reason to throw good money after bad.

 

[azgreg]

You’re only paying him $50 million if you decide to keep him. No reason to throw good money after bad.

A vast majority of his contract is guaranteed plus there's the CAP hit for just cutting him. I think we can all agree that the best course is to just trade him and get rid of the contract completely and I think that's what is going to happen.

 

[Stout]

A vast majority of his contract is guaranteed plus there's the CAP hit for just cutting him. I think we can all agree that the best course is to just trade him and get rid of the contract completely and I think that's what is going to happen.

Let's hope we can get something in return. Otherwise, yeah, bye bye, ya cut.

 

[QuebecCard]

A vast majority of his contract is guaranteed plus there's the CAP hit for just cutting him. I think we can all agree that the best course is to just trade him and get rid of the contract completely and I think that's what is going to happen.

Not addressing you personally, but I find it hilarious that, after 400 pages of character assassination and questioning his abilities, some expect another team to relieve the CARDS of this contract.

Mind you, I could see some arrangement between teams and the agent, if KM was sent to Atlanta, for example, where there are offensive tools, an indoor setting, and a winnable division.

 

[azgreg]

Not addressing you personally, but I find it hilarious that, after 400 pages of character assassination and questioning his abilities, some expect another team to relieve the CARDS of this contract.

Mind you, I could see some arrangement between teams and the agent, if KM was sent to Atlanta, for example, where there are offensive tools, an indoor setting, and a winnable division.

400+ pages of comments from fans which is short for fanatic. I think he can still play and there are a number of teams whose QB position is worse than ours. The Cards might not get much for him but I think they'll get something.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

QB is a unique position where it can be detrimental to the team to have a position battle. That's the reason you see vets with young QBs, or young QBs with worse QBs. You don't want to risk dividing a locker room because teammates have differing opinions on who should be in the QB leadership role. The salaries attached can also influence things. Nothing good comes from keeping Kyler on the roster to battle for a spot when he makes 45 mil. You just have to move on even if it means cutting him.

Perhaps this is all true.

Even if it is, it still doesn't excuse the Cardinals' shocking incompetence exhibited beginning the moment Murray was drafted.

If we cut him, it will be an titanically embarrassing personnel management failure.

 

[slanidrac16]

Perhaps this is all true.

Even if it is, it still doesn't excuse the Cardinals' shocking incompetence exhibited beginning the moment Murray was drafted.

If we cut him, it will be an titanically embarrassing personnel management failure.

What’s more embarrassing is to continue this charade. He don’t want to be here. Most of us don’t want to see him anymore. Apparently Gannon/Petzing didn’t want him. If managements wants him here they sure aren’t showing.
It’s time to move on.

 

[602 Native]

Stout you and I have scant evidence that his attitude is so poor as to justify cutting him. All we have is mostly conjecture and hearsay.

Conjecture is all that matters when it comes to K1 and the KDS Crew.

 

[602 Native]

That's more than likely why he's not talking. Doesn't mean he's a cancer in the clubhouse. If I'm paying a guy $50m I'd rather he wore my uniform and wasn't sitting on his couch.

We are about to pay an OC millions to do basically nothing so benching K1 and paying him is on brand.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

did we cut him yet?

 

[QuebecCard]

400+ pages of comments from fans which is short for fanatic. I think he can still play and there are a number of teams whose QB position is worse than ours. The Cards might not get much for him but I think they'll get something.

Again, no trade will occur if KM, through his agent, says, 'I don't want to go there.'

No GM on the other end of the line will make a deal under these circumstances.

Outright release before they have to:

• 2026 90 Man Roster Bonus: $17M ($13.965M guarantees the 5th league day of 2025, injury at signing.

Can't read his mind, but I'll venture KM wants an outright release, leaving him free to negotiate wherever.

 

[QuebecCard]

We are about to pay an OC millions to do basically nothing so benching K1 and paying him is on brand.

No one is being paid millions for basically nothing.

 

[602 Native]

602, I'll say one thing. Your unwavering support of K1 is admirable. You mentioned you were a small business owner, and if you run your business with the same compassion, I'm sure you are successful....respect

But....LOL

Hahahaha Thanks brother.

My post really wasn’t about K1 more about how terrible the Bidwillians are.

That being said I am for sure that guy in terms of unwavering passion for something I believe in. How else could I support the Cardinals.

My business has been a great success due to my attitude of never giving up even in the face of what looks like are insurmountable odds. I think every small business owner that is successful has to have that attitude.

 

[602 Native]

Again, no trade will occur if KM, through his agent, says, 'I don't want to go there.'

No GM on the other end of the line will make a deal under these circumstances.

Outright release before they have to:

• 2026 90 Man Roster Bonus: $17M ($13.965M guarantees the 5th league day of 2025, injury at signing)
• 2027 90 Man Roster Bonus: $14.185M (due the 5th league day of 2027)

Can't read his mind, but I'll venture KM wants an outright release, leaving him free to negotiate wherever.

This is exactly what I will think will happen as well.

K1 is a QB that has played for a terrible organization and actually had success unlike the vast majority of QBs that have played here.

 

[602 Native]

So the mods have put a mask over combining Bidwills and Hillbillies.

Absolutely hilarious!

 

[602 Native]

All KM's agent has to say is 'my client has no interest in playing there,' and any trade is off.

People here don’t understand how this is going to work. Hence why you have a bunch of people saying K1 will go to the Jets which ain’t happening on any level.

 

[602 Native]

No one is being paid millions for basically nothing.

We did the exact same thing when Keim was a drunk and “suspended” him and never fired him.

 

[QuebecCard]

So the mods have put a mask over combining Bidwills and Hillbillies.

Absolutely hilarious!

Well, to be sure, these 'billies' have been living at the top of the 'hill' for a very long time.

 

[Stout]

Perhaps this is all true.

Even if it is, it still doesn't excuse the Cardinals' shocking incompetence exhibited beginning the moment Murray was drafted.

If we cut him, it will be an titanically embarrassing personnel management failure.

Completely agree.

 

[Stout]

So the mods have put a mask over combining Bidwills and Hillbillies.

Absolutely hilarious!

What? No more Bidwill, M.? Preposterous!

 

[QuebecCard]

We did the exact same thing when Keim was a drunk and “suspended” him and never fired him.

Exact same thing?

Keim: GM and long-time employee.

Hackett: just stepped into the building.

There are myriad of things to do and supervise on the offensive side that go well beyond calling plays on Sunday.

 

[602 Native]

Exact same thing?

Keim: GM and long-time employee.

Hackett: just stepped into the building.

There are a myriad of things to do and supervise on the offensive side that go well beyond calling plays on Sunday.

And yet people are claiming in his hiring thread he won’t be doing much.

The dude is a terrible coach and just goes to show this teams ineptitude.

It’s maddening.

 

[602 Native]

What? No more Bidwill, M.? Preposterous!

Obviously they didn’t get that one just the plural version.

LOL

Let’s Go!

 

[QuebecCard]

And yet people are claiming in his hiring thread he won’t be doing much.

The dude is a terrible coach and just goes to show this teams ineptitude.

It’s maddening.

This is a LaFleur hire based on a recommendation from his brother.

Hackett was instrumental in easing Matt into his role as H-C in Green Bay.

Are you saying that, a few days into his tenure, Mike is inept?