OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[daves]

I would legit lol. Let's get this bad boy to 800!

Almost at 10K posts already!

 

[Adrian]

Gannon Talks Kyler Murray Lost Season As Finale Approaches

Quarterback hasn't played since Week 5

www.azcardinals.com

 

[Mulli]

Gannon Talks Kyler Murray Lost Season As Finale Approaches

Quarterback hasn't played since Week 5

www.azcardinals.com

What else did Gannon call him?
Winner
Franchise QB
Starter

 

[slanidrac16]

What else did Gannon call him?
Winner
Franchise QB
Starter

Oh boy. Can’t wait for opening day.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Oh boy. Can’t wait for opening day.

Michael Bidwill wants nothing less than to run it back with Kyler next year. But would assume he’s got people telling him that there’s a good chance he might not have any better options.

Gonna be an interesting offseason for sure.

 

[slanidrac16]

Michael Bidwill wants nothing less than to run it back with Kyler next year. But would assume he’s got people telling him that there’s a good chance he might not have any better options.

Gonna be an interesting offseason for sure.

Of course. Unless there was some mathematical way to not have to pay Kyler , Bidwill was NEVER going to pay Kyler to walk away.
The same could be said about this staff.
Kyler’s injury and overall injuries will be what the press conferences will be all about.
PEW! PEW!
Here we go….

 

[kerouac9]

Gannon Talks Kyler Murray Lost Season As Finale Approaches

Quarterback hasn't played since Week 5

www.azcardinals.com

People should actually watch the video and it seems pretty clear Gannon hasn’t talked to Kyler in a while. It’s just saying nice things.

 

[Adrian]

Raiders Linked to Trade for Polarizing Former First-Round Pick QB: Report

The Las Vegas Raiders could consider taking a flyer on a veteran who still has upside if they don't want to draft a quarterback.

heavy.com

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Google AI says "solid starter"

Round 1 38%
Round 2 15.6%
Round 3 13%
Round 4 8%
Round 5-7 3%

Now that isn't a pro bowl level player. That is just someone who starts for a few years.

To get to that you are:

Top 5 pick: 61.2%
Top 10 pick: 56%
Picks 11 - 32 44.2%
QBs outside of round 1 13.3%

And to paint that into further perspective, Murray would be considered a "Hit" so to get to really elite the numbers would taper off incredibly.

Exactly. So listing outliers in later rounds is kinda really arguing against waiting to find your gem later.

 

[Stout]

Raiders Linked to Trade for Polarizing Former First-Round Pick QB: Report

The Las Vegas Raiders could consider taking a flyer on a veteran who still has upside if they don't want to draft a quarterback.

heavy.com

Use him as part of a package to move up to draft Mendoza.

 

[schutd]

Almost 100 pages added in a season that he only played 5 games in. Remarkable. Im sure lots of opinions have been altered.

 

[AZ Fan]

Raiders Linked to Trade for Polarizing Former First-Round Pick QB: Report

The Las Vegas Raiders could consider taking a flyer on a veteran who still has upside if they don't want to draft a quarterback.

heavy.com

“…The Raiders have ample salary cap room, and Murray’s exciting playing style could receive a warm welcome in Las Vegas.” As a Raider fan, Balderdash.

Though I root for the Cardinals, I don’t want to see Murray wearing Silver and Black. It’s just a rumor.

 

[TRW]

Raiders Linked to Trade for Polarizing Former First-Round Pick QB: Report

The Las Vegas Raiders could consider taking a flyer on a veteran who still has upside if they don't want to draft a quarterback.

heavy.com

The Raiders will be considering "taking a flier" on just about any QB not named GeNO!!!! I doubt it will be Kyler but they could do way worse.

They'll draft Mendoza and sign a vet to hold the job until he's ready to take over (about the bye week).

 

[AZ Fan]

Murray’s prima-donna behavior would be a nonstarter for the Raiders.

 

[Zalixar]

There will be a day when Kyler can't hurt us anymore.

But it is not this day.

I'm not entirely convinced he's gone this year.

 

[GatorAZ]

Use him as part of a package to move up to draft Mendoza.

Now that the Raiders have the #1 pick that makes no sense for them.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Now that the Raiders have the #1 pick that makes no sense for them.

raiders already have the mendoza jerseys printed - offensive playbooks are being drawn up - we got no shot

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I remember last off season getting lambasted for suggesting trading Murray for Trevor Lawrence.
Was told Lawrence is terrible and why would anyone want him.

Go Kyler.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I remember last off season getting lambasted for suggesting trading Murray for Trevor Lawrence.
Was told Lawrence is terrible and why would anyone want him.

Go Kyler.

There were some making that argument THIS season.

 

[DVontel]

I remember last off season getting lambasted for suggesting trading Murray for Trevor Lawrence.
Was told Lawrence is terrible and why would anyone want him.

Go Kyler.

There were some making that argument THIS season.

I’m not defending Kyler here, but Petzing isn’t changing Trevor’s life/career like Coen has.

 

[BigRedMO]

Murray defrauded Bidwill. No way Murray is back. If Bidwill were a gangster Murray would be wearing cement shoes for showing up Bidwill and making him look stupid next to his old man which is hard to believe is possible. Did everyone forget a back up out played Murray? Zero leadership is enough reason to not want Murray back.

 

[some dumb guy]

The season has ended....
No need to post here again until draft day...

Elevator music now playing......

 

[urs]

Murray defrauded Bidwill. No way Murray is back. If Bidwill were a gangster Murray would be wearing cement shoes for showing up Bidwill and making him look stupid next to his old man. Did everyone forget a back up out played Murray? Zero leadership is enough reason to not want Murray back.

2-3 1-11

 

[BigRedMO]

Murray cost this team almost a decade of competitiveness. He undid all the good that was done by Warner and Palmer. The financial hit put the Bidwill ownership at risk. I would hate to see the result if Bidwill asked for a new stadium financed by the public now. Even in ten years the Murray debacle will reverberate with casual fans. STL fan erosion didnt occur in a single year. It was gradual over time that was a result in non-competitiveness. The winning percentage in STL is higher then in AZ. Bill Bidwill said all he needed to win was a stadium.

Kingsbury of the spread and run and shoot convinced Bidwill that Murray was his QB. Yet by the time Kingsbury was fired he was running a run first conventional offense. Kingsbury brought in the players Murray wanted including a former team mate. Why did he give up on an offense tailored for Murray? Why repeat that mistake? What better coach to run a spread or run and shoot?

 

[DVontel]

^Is this Bidwill’s burner?